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That’s a good point, but I’m also starting to speculate whether, when the infection rates and (crucially) hospital occupation rates diminish, we will see some p
by qubex 7y ago
That’s a good point, but I’m also starting to speculate whether, when the infection rates and (crucially) hospital occupation rates diminish, we will see some people deliberately seeking to get infected so as to gain immunity whilst the risks are low, specifically, when they can be reasonably certain that if they experience severe symptoms they’ll have a place in an ICU to receive intensive care. This might sound unsound (pardon the awkward phrasing) but it’s not necessarily irrational given the perceived advantages of immunity and the diminished perceived risks. It might not even be socially undesirable either, as a kind of “low burn” through the population, or at least it’s sturdier members, might be seen as building up that “herd immunity” which makes it difficult for the virus to reach the higher-risk individuals.
- tshanmu 7y agoWhat's with WHO statements that there is no evidence of immunity for covid19 infected?
- redis_mlc 7y agoI haven't seen anything confirming that, either weakly or strongly. It's unlikely to be true, since most diseases don't behave that way, but we'll see. All we really know is that the current corona tests don't seem to be very accurate.
- kaetemi 7y agoThey don't want people to be confident, they don't want to take the risk that they skip vaccination.
- arcticbull 7y agoThey are correct: there is no evidence specifically of COVID immunity after infection. There's a very (very) high likelihood based on everything we know about humans and viruses (corona flavored or otherwise), but it's fair to expect a study confirming as much before making a global public health policy decision of that magnitude. This article references the WHO statement [1]. [1] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/04/warns-coronavirus-immunity-passports-200425150532564.html https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/04/warns-coronavirus-imm...
- qubex 7y agoAs others have noted, “not confirmed” does not mean that we have to take all that we know about viruses and immunology and trash it (yet). In all likelihood in due course it shall be confirmed. There’s no reason to believe this virus is fundamentally different from any other.
- JoshuaDavid 7y ago"There is no evidence [from rigorous peer-reviewed research] that X is true" and "there is evidence that X is not true" are not the same thing.
- meheleventyone 7y agoSeems like a pretty risky thing to do. Not only to yourself since you don’t know in advance if you’re going to have symptoms or not (risking permanent injury and death) but to your family and wider society. It would only take a few people doing this and not adequately self isolating for the weeks required to get better to start spreading the virus again quickly.
- qubex 7y agoDon’t get me wrong, I’m most definitely not advocating it. But keep in mind there’s folks considering shooting up bleach because Podium Dementor mused about it ‘sarcastically’. People’s cognitive processes surprise, sometimes.
- meheleventyone 7y agoYeah I wouldn’t be surprised if the next “superspreader” event after this first set of lockdowns is caused by someone who deliberately infected themselves.