> Not every death is the same OK, so how many "influenza death equivalents" are we looking at? What's your metric for how bad this is? I mean, I think that's

> Not every death is the same OK, so how many "influenza death equivalents" are we looking at? What's your metric for how bad this is? I mean, I think that's a little ghoulish, obviously, but if people really want to make this argument I'd really like to see the kinds of well-founded numbers that the experts are producing. Medical ethics is hardly a new field, after all. You'd think someone would have pulled some analysis off the shelf. Instead, the people pushing "these people would have died anyway" seem to be almost exclusively political actors (or their proxies on social media sites like this one) with a goal of either defending the inaction of the current administration or pushing a policy goal that necessarily sets the virus loose on the public. But if you really want to make a numerate case for not trying to save the old and sick, I'd genuinely and carefully read it.