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Most compelling thing versus similarly priced Android offerings from my point of view is the guarantee of software support far into the future. Hardware is roug

by sq_ 6y ago

Most compelling thing versus similarly priced Android offerings from my point of view is the guarantee of software support far into the future. Hardware is roughly the same as the 11, so, based on Apple's past behavior, one can expect that this will be supported for roughly as long as the 11 will. I'm definitely not aware of many Android phones at this price point that one can expect to get security updates, much less feature updates, 4-5 years into the future.

GeekyBear 6y ago
The iPhone 5s got six years of OS and security updates. Since the iPhone 4s, every major iPhone has received at least five years of support. The sole exception was the first attempt at a budget iPhone, the 2013 iPhone 5c, which only got four years of updates.
- scarface74 6y ago
  The 4s from 2011 got a bug fix/security update June of last year....
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    That was for GPS positioning; there were no security fixes in that update.
hocuspocus 6y ago
On Android, a much bigger part of the OS gets updated through the Play store and Play services, you certainly do get access to new features 5 years into the future.
- ViViDboarder 6y ago
  But you’re on your own if there is a kernel exploit!
- simonh 6y ago
  That’s true, Play Services has proved a great way to get useful feature updates out without being beholden to the carriers and manufacturers, but it doesn’t really help much on the security side.
  - hocuspocus 6y ago
    It's not perfect and Google should definitely figure out a way to push low-level security fixes, but it does help on the security side as well. A lot of the attack surface (the Play store itself, messaging apps, browser, system webview, ...) keeps getting updates for many years after the end of system upgrades delivered by the OEM.
fomine3 6y ago
Mostly agree but Apple often cuts support by RAM capacity. iPhone 11 has 4GB but SE has 3GB. I expect 11 gets a bit longer support.

by sq_ 6y ago

GeekyBear 6y ago

The iPhone 5s got six years of OS and security updates. Since the iPhone 4s, every major iPhone has received at least five years of support. The sole exception was the first attempt at a budget iPhone, the 2013 iPhone 5c, which only got four years of updates.

scarface74 6y ago
The 4s from 2011 got a bug fix/security update June of last year....
- saagarjha 6y ago
  That was for GPS positioning; there were no security fixes in that update.

hocuspocus 6y ago

On Android, a much bigger part of the OS gets updated through the Play store and Play services, you certainly do get access to new features 5 years into the future.

ViViDboarder 6y ago
But you’re on your own if there is a kernel exploit!
simonh 6y ago
That’s true, Play Services has proved a great way to get useful feature updates out without being beholden to the carriers and manufacturers, but it doesn’t really help much on the security side.
- hocuspocus 6y ago
  It's not perfect and Google should definitely figure out a way to push low-level security fixes, but it does help on the security side as well. A lot of the attack surface (the Play store itself, messaging apps, browser, system webview, ...) keeps getting updates for many years after the end of system upgrades delivered by the OEM.

fomine3 6y ago

Mostly agree but Apple often cuts support by RAM capacity. iPhone 11 has 4GB but SE has 3GB. I expect 11 gets a bit longer support.