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A lot of people laid off are getting more with unemployment than they were actually working (extra $600/week due to stimulus bill). The reason why a lot of peo

by tempsy 7y ago

A lot of people laid off are getting more with unemployment than they were actually working (extra $600/week due to stimulus bill). The reason why a lot of people can’t pay is not because they won’t have that money eventually but because the state unemployment benefit offices are steeped in bureaucracy and aren’t processing these claims fast enough. Some states make it much harder than others by design. This is a preventable crisis.

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nostromo 7y ago
But how many people are losing their healthcare? ... during a pandemic? And how many of those people won't go to a hospital because they're uninsured now?
- tempsy 7y ago
  Depends on the situation. Anyone furloughed still keeps all their benefits. Some laid off have benefits for longer.
acdha 7y ago
Citation needed for that “a lot”, especially given how many news stories there are about significant delays before getting payments (see e.g. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/unemployment-benefits-6-2-million-waiting-or-nj-pa/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/unemployment-benefits-6-2-milli...) and the need to pay significantly more (COBRA) or go without health insurance until qualifying for and getting on Medicaid. There are definitely some people in low wage states getting more but that is far from universal even though it’s a standard right-wing talking point.
- tempsy 7y ago
  Extra $2400/mo plus some percent of your salary means almost everyone making $50k or less is made whole or making more. That’s a significant percentage of those service workers who were most vulnerable to being laid off. If you are furloughed you keep all your benefits and still qualify for unemployment Some companies are paying for healthcare for a period of time post layoffs
magicalhippo 7y ago
> because the state unemployment benefit offices are steeped in bureaucracy and aren’t processing these claims fast enough When Norway went into lockdown, they predicted a similar problem. We have decent unemployment safety nets here, but the process takes a bit of time and the fear was that the bureaucrats would not be able to process the applications fast enough. However they rose to the occasion and managed to come up with an online-based solution in 3 days. There's an interesting write-up here[1] (in Norwegian, but Google Translate should do a decent enough job). A key point was that the legal department managed to find some wiggle room in the rules to allow them to pay out in advance of the application getting officially approved. However there was also some legacy systems to contend with, and of course the web site had to be secure since it had to process our equivalent of social security numbers etc. The result was that in a few days they processed more applications than they typically do during a normal year, and people got their money. [1]: https://www.kode24.no/kodenytt/slik-koda-nav-ny-dagpenge-losning-pa-tre-dager/72331871 https://www.kode24.no/kodenytt/slik-koda-nav-ny-dagpenge-los...

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nostromo 7y ago

But how many people are losing their healthcare? ... during a pandemic? And how many of those people won't go to a hospital because they're uninsured now?

tempsy 7y ago
Depends on the situation. Anyone furloughed still keeps all their benefits. Some laid off have benefits for longer.

acdha 7y ago

Citation needed for that “a lot”, especially given how many news stories there are about significant delays before getting payments (see e.g. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/unemployment-benefits-6-2-million-waiting-or-nj-pa/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/unemployment-benefits-6-2-milli...) and the need to pay significantly more (COBRA) or go without health insurance until qualifying for and getting on Medicaid. There are definitely some people in low wage states getting more but that is far from universal even though it’s a standard right-wing talking point.

tempsy 7y ago
Extra $2400/mo plus some percent of your salary means almost everyone making $50k or less is made whole or making more. That’s a significant percentage of those service workers who were most vulnerable to being laid off. If you are furloughed you keep all your benefits and still qualify for unemployment Some companies are paying for healthcare for a period of time post layoffs

magicalhippo 7y ago

> because the state unemployment benefit offices are steeped in bureaucracy and aren’t processing these claims fast enough When Norway went into lockdown, they predicted a similar problem. We have decent unemployment safety nets here, but the process takes a bit of time and the fear was that the bureaucrats would not be able to process the applications fast enough. However they rose to the occasion and managed to come up with an online-based solution in 3 days. There's an interesting write-up here[1] (in Norwegian, but Google Translate should do a decent enough job). A key point was that the legal department managed to find some wiggle room in the rules to allow them to pay out in advance of the application getting officially approved. However there was also some legacy systems to contend with, and of course the web site had to be secure since it had to process our equivalent of social security numbers etc. The result was that in a few days they processed more applications than they typically do during a normal year, and people got their money. [1]: https://www.kode24.no/kodenytt/slik-koda-nav-ny-dagpenge-losning-pa-tre-dager/72331871 https://www.kode24.no/kodenytt/slik-koda-nav-ny-dagpenge-los...