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First off, yes, Covid is real, it's way worse than flu, social distancing is essential, it's not 5g and not a government conspiracy. But I can not help but wond

by arpa 6y ago

First off, yes, Covid is real, it's way worse than flu, social distancing is essential, it's not 5g and not a government conspiracy. But I can not help but wonder - if we were to look for other variables, like, i don't know, eye color, isn't it likely that we would find a similar correlation? What is the model of action here and why are medical professionals so sure it was caused by covid? Maybe covid is a confounding variable, most apparent because we are mostly looking at it now?

chkaloon 6y ago
On "This Week in Virology", a podcast that's been going on for quite a while but just got popular (imagine that), this was discussed, and the consensus was that there is definitely something going with clotting mechanisms and Covid-19. They started treating with Warfarin and Heparin just like they do with older conventional stroke patients. It may also be implicated in the kidney failure that seems to associate with Covid As for me I'm going to keep taking a daily baby aspirin like I have for years. I bleed like a stuck pig when I get a cut, but I can live with that!
- arpa 6y ago
  That's a very interesting fact. It makes the stroke being caused by covid more plausible.
dmix 6y ago
> Mocco, who has spent his career studying strokes and how to treat them, said he was “completely shocked” by the analysis. He noted the link between covid-19 and stroke “is one of the clearest and most profound correlations I’ve come across.”
- arpa 6y ago
  Okay, let's burn more karma. Maybe there is some hidden variable that makes these young people more susceptible to covid. Correlation without a model of action is, well, a correlation. Clots from damaged lungs maybe? But clotting without lung damage is unlikely. It's very weird.
  - loopz 6y ago
    Covid-19 attacks the whole body, including brain, vessels, you name it. They've found Sars-Cov-2 in eyelids. This is exactly why you want governments to be responsible and take precautionairy actions first, because we know next to nothing about this virus and effects. Those who claim otherwise are simply ignorant, because we all are. The science will come later.
    - arpa 6y ago
      Well AFAIR virii are like that - they tend to be found, well, about everywhere, provided viral load is sufficient. That doesn't mean that their protein spike has an affinity (i.e. can bind to and infect) to other cells, so "attacking the whole body" is a bit of an overstatement. It's just shit luck it targets a receptor that is prevalent in key organs, as it regulates the blood flow. Then again i am not really an expert so let's leave it at that.
DennisP 6y ago
Young people with covid have strokes at a much higher rate than they do without covid. I could see your point if the main transmission vector for covid were cheeseburgers, but as it is I'm having trouble thinking of a plausible confounding variable.
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by arpa 6y ago

chkaloon 6y ago

On "This Week in Virology", a podcast that's been going on for quite a while but just got popular (imagine that), this was discussed, and the consensus was that there is definitely something going with clotting mechanisms and Covid-19. They started treating with Warfarin and Heparin just like they do with older conventional stroke patients. It may also be implicated in the kidney failure that seems to associate with Covid As for me I'm going to keep taking a daily baby aspirin like I have for years. I bleed like a stuck pig when I get a cut, but I can live with that!

arpa 6y ago
That's a very interesting fact. It makes the stroke being caused by covid more plausible.

dmix 6y ago

> Mocco, who has spent his career studying strokes and how to treat them, said he was “completely shocked” by the analysis. He noted the link between covid-19 and stroke “is one of the clearest and most profound correlations I’ve come across.”

arpa 6y ago
Okay, let's burn more karma. Maybe there is some hidden variable that makes these young people more susceptible to covid. Correlation without a model of action is, well, a correlation. Clots from damaged lungs maybe? But clotting without lung damage is unlikely. It's very weird.
- loopz 6y ago
  Covid-19 attacks the whole body, including brain, vessels, you name it. They've found Sars-Cov-2 in eyelids. This is exactly why you want governments to be responsible and take precautionairy actions first, because we know next to nothing about this virus and effects. Those who claim otherwise are simply ignorant, because we all are. The science will come later.
  - arpa 6y ago
    Well AFAIR virii are like that - they tend to be found, well, about everywhere, provided viral load is sufficient. That doesn't mean that their protein spike has an affinity (i.e. can bind to and infect) to other cells, so "attacking the whole body" is a bit of an overstatement. It's just shit luck it targets a receptor that is prevalent in key organs, as it regulates the blood flow. Then again i am not really an expert so let's leave it at that.

DennisP 6y ago

Young people with covid have strokes at a much higher rate than they do without covid. I could see your point if the main transmission vector for covid were cheeseburgers, but as it is I'm having trouble thinking of a plausible confounding variable.

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