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>Buy a bunch of precursor from China The precursor is opium. Even synthetic opiates are derived from morphine, codeine and thebane directly extracted from popp

>Buy a bunch of precursor from China The precursor is opium. Even synthetic opiates are derived from morphine, codeine and thebane directly extracted from poppies. In the case of oxycontin it's the thebane that's used. Thebane lacks the euphoric properties of morphine and makes you sick but is equally if not more addictive. Oxycontin is typically not smuggled across borders but sold by people with prescriptions. Everyone I know hooked on oxys buys them from the people with oxy prescriptions. Fentynyl is cheap to produce and easy to smuggle in complete form. It's extremely potent and is extracted from unregulated fentynyl patches from China. These are stolen from hospitals etc, and are then processed to extract the fentynyl. This is then shipped on boats and such where it's easily concealed. It ends up being cut into heroin or coke or some other drugs by local dealers to extend their supply. Suddenly that gram of heroin they sell is going to get someone high for 3 days instead of a few hours. Most people od'ing on fentynyl aren't willingingly doing fentynyl, they're doing heroin or coke or something some asshole decided to cut with fentynyl.

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weeksie 7y ago
My understanding is that Fentanyl is synthetic and that China is the primary source of those (three, I think) precursor chemicals. I don't know enough about chemistry to know if the precursors are derived from poppies but I'm not under the impression that they are. Can you go into more detail on that? Also I never claimed oxies were smuggled into the US, and I mentioned that people od because their heroin is spiked with Fent, so I'm not sure if you're trolling?
- grawprog 7y ago
  https://erowid.org/pharms/fentanyl/ https://erowid.org/pharms/fentanyl/ So, i've been trying to do some digging. It seems that this is the precursor to fentynyl https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/1-Benzyl-4-piperidone https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/1-Benzyl-4-piperid... According to these syntheses. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0108250 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal... https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/fentanyl https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/fentanyl Finding the precursor to N-Benzyl-4-piperidone was difficult but it seems to be partially this. https://m.chemicalbook.com/ChemicalProductProperty_EN_CB9343629.htm https://m.chemicalbook.com/ChemicalProductProperty_EN_CB9343... Which is https://www.spectrumchemical.com/OA_HTML/chemical-synonym_4-4-Piperidinediol-Hydrochloride.jsp?pSynonym=4,4-Piperidinediol-Hydrochloride https://www.spectrumchemical.com/OA_HTML/chemical-synonym_4-... >is a derivative of piperidine used as an intermediate in manufacturing pharmaceutical drugs and chemicals Which comes from black pepper https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piperidine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piperidine

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weeksie 7y ago

My understanding is that Fentanyl is synthetic and that China is the primary source of those (three, I think) precursor chemicals. I don't know enough about chemistry to know if the precursors are derived from poppies but I'm not under the impression that they are. Can you go into more detail on that? Also I never claimed oxies were smuggled into the US, and I mentioned that people od because their heroin is spiked with Fent, so I'm not sure if you're trolling?

grawprog 7y ago
https://erowid.org/pharms/fentanyl/ https://erowid.org/pharms/fentanyl/ So, i've been trying to do some digging. It seems that this is the precursor to fentynyl https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/1-Benzyl-4-piperidone https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/1-Benzyl-4-piperid... According to these syntheses. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0108250 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal... https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/fentanyl https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/fentanyl Finding the precursor to N-Benzyl-4-piperidone was difficult but it seems to be partially this. https://m.chemicalbook.com/ChemicalProductProperty_EN_CB9343629.htm https://m.chemicalbook.com/ChemicalProductProperty_EN_CB9343... Which is https://www.spectrumchemical.com/OA_HTML/chemical-synonym_4-4-Piperidinediol-Hydrochloride.jsp?pSynonym=4,4-Piperidinediol-Hydrochloride https://www.spectrumchemical.com/OA_HTML/chemical-synonym_4-... >is a derivative of piperidine used as an intermediate in manufacturing pharmaceutical drugs and chemicals Which comes from black pepper https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piperidine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piperidine