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Also, how does this affect the actual death rate numbers in NYC if unnecessary deaths caused by outcomes of ventilator use are factored into the picture? Could
by jonkho 6y ago
Also, how does this affect the actual death rate numbers in NYC if unnecessary deaths caused by outcomes of ventilator use are factored into the picture? Could change the picture quite drastically.
- james-mcelwain 6y agoIt's not like we're going around incubating healthy people -- you have to be pretty sick to get put on a ventilator. Even if the treatment turns out to be a net negative, most of these patients didn't have very good odds in the first place, so it's pretty unlikely it would affect the death rates "drastically."
- jonkho 6y agoSources? I would disagree, reports show that by not intubating, outcomes are dramatically improved. [1][2] [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-22/almost-9-in-10-covid-19-patients-on-ventilators-died-in-study https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-22/almost-9-... [2] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-ventilators-specia/as-virus-advances-doctors-rethink-rush-to-ventilate-idUSKCN2251PE https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-ventil...
- james-mcelwain 6y agoI'm taking issue with the use of the word "dramatically" not the claim that it could improve patient outcomes.
- jonkho 6y agoSounds like mincing words. Still you have not provided sources to support your assumptions whatsoever.