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There are all kinds of response to this insanity but ignoring distracting details and not trying to comprehend the worst of society, something I've noticed over

by ck2 7y ago

There are all kinds of response to this insanity but ignoring distracting details and not trying to comprehend the worst of society, something I've noticed over the decades is whatever hoax, whatever conspiracy theory that pops up, the common denominator to the most destructive responders is poor education and poor critical thinking skills. Once a society has lost those fundamentals, it's over. It's also why the movie "Idiocracy" seems to slowly become reality.

heavenlyblue 7y ago
This is the exact time for groups like these to mobilise (or their leaders to start recruiting). They exist all the time, however people are much more receptive when they are not occupied, directly observing the weakness of their government (even if unfairly) and are financially unstable.
- Nursie 7y ago
  Financially unstable, scared, lookng for something they can control and blame. Yup, prime time for these arseholes.
vezycash 7y ago
> the common denominator to the most destructive responders is poor education and poor critical thinking skills smart, highly educated people believe dumb stuff too. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/mind/smart-people-do-stupid-things-not/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/mind/smart-people...
- 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
  Well educated and critical thinkers will easily “turn off” their “critical” thinking when it comes to subjects as politics and religion. Like most of us, people seek confirmation of their biases in whatever form that takes on. These groups remind me of the cults of ancient Egypt, which seems to be a part of history ready to repeat itself.
  - vezycash 7y ago
    >seems to be a part of history ready to repeat itself. Talking about history, this 5g nonsense is a symptom of something else - A lack of trust in governments in general and certain authorities. If nothing changes, someone might pull a Hitler and channel the frustrations of the poor... This reminds me of a class I took on Communication within organizations. When official channels of communication cuts off, the unofficial channel of information (grapevine) takes over. In such environment, the grapevine will manufacture and spread wild theories, stories, gossips... And that's what happened here.
    - 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
      > If nothing changes, someone might pull a Hitler and channel the frustrations of the poor... This is a much more likely scenario with broad joblessness as the economy continues to be shut down than it is with the vocal 5G crowd. There’s always consequences to our actions. Surprised so many people are whistling past the graveyard with regard to crippling unemployment.
- ck2 7y ago
  well yes, plenty of people can memory endlessly and regurgitate the knowledge on demand and go through many years of school but of course that's not "critical thinking" and plenty of "gut thinkers" feel they are critical thinkers but lack of education instead defeats them however questioning and evaluating things for oneself does tend to lead to better results, like say not destroying 5G wireless, following cults religious or political, etc. - doesn't take a Ph.d but does take critical thinking
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johndunne 7y ago
I just came off of the YouTube comments section, arguing with people who angrily defend the "Herd immunity" solution with the usual biased and paranoid "bad gov/stupid followers" rhetoric. Reminding them that "Idiocracy" is real... because it is. I can see why the people of "Elysium" left this tragic place.
prox 7y ago
Lets also note there is exploitation of certain groups to create a polarization that works to insulate and retain a sphere of influence. From 2010 onwards we see disinformation getting more successful. Sofar the beneficiaries seems to be the right wing with tea party aligned idiologies and the Russians, who benefit of the division by weakening the belief in a democratic system or by discrediting leaders who oppose Russia (as in Trump is more favorable than Hillary who would have upped the pressure together with a United Europe) Same same in the UK and Brexit. Although there are certainly double blind assets for these parties who also enjoy the rewards of this system and like to promote or sustain it. The extreme right, fake medicine, disinformation sites. It has become an system in its own right. Edits : formatting for clarity.
- prox 7y ago
  Instead of downvoting, comment on the errors in the assessment.

by ck2 7y ago

heavenlyblue 7y ago

This is the exact time for groups like these to mobilise (or their leaders to start recruiting). They exist all the time, however people are much more receptive when they are not occupied, directly observing the weakness of their government (even if unfairly) and are financially unstable.

Nursie 7y ago
Financially unstable, scared, lookng for something they can control and blame. Yup, prime time for these arseholes.

vezycash 7y ago

> the common denominator to the most destructive responders is poor education and poor critical thinking skills smart, highly educated people believe dumb stuff too. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/mind/smart-people-do-stupid-things-not/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/mind/smart-people...

3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
Well educated and critical thinkers will easily “turn off” their “critical” thinking when it comes to subjects as politics and religion. Like most of us, people seek confirmation of their biases in whatever form that takes on. These groups remind me of the cults of ancient Egypt, which seems to be a part of history ready to repeat itself.
- vezycash 7y ago
  >seems to be a part of history ready to repeat itself. Talking about history, this 5g nonsense is a symptom of something else - A lack of trust in governments in general and certain authorities. If nothing changes, someone might pull a Hitler and channel the frustrations of the poor... This reminds me of a class I took on Communication within organizations. When official channels of communication cuts off, the unofficial channel of information (grapevine) takes over. In such environment, the grapevine will manufacture and spread wild theories, stories, gossips... And that's what happened here.
  - 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y ago
    > If nothing changes, someone might pull a Hitler and channel the frustrations of the poor... This is a much more likely scenario with broad joblessness as the economy continues to be shut down than it is with the vocal 5G crowd. There’s always consequences to our actions. Surprised so many people are whistling past the graveyard with regard to crippling unemployment.
ck2 7y ago
well yes, plenty of people can memory endlessly and regurgitate the knowledge on demand and go through many years of school but of course that's not "critical thinking" and plenty of "gut thinkers" feel they are critical thinkers but lack of education instead defeats them however questioning and evaluating things for oneself does tend to lead to better results, like say not destroying 5G wireless, following cults religious or political, etc. - doesn't take a Ph.d but does take critical thinking

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johndunne 7y ago

I just came off of the YouTube comments section, arguing with people who angrily defend the "Herd immunity" solution with the usual biased and paranoid "bad gov/stupid followers" rhetoric. Reminding them that "Idiocracy" is real... because it is. I can see why the people of "Elysium" left this tragic place.

prox 7y ago

Lets also note there is exploitation of certain groups to create a polarization that works to insulate and retain a sphere of influence. From 2010 onwards we see disinformation getting more successful. Sofar the beneficiaries seems to be the right wing with tea party aligned idiologies and the Russians, who benefit of the division by weakening the belief in a democratic system or by discrediting leaders who oppose Russia (as in Trump is more favorable than Hillary who would have upped the pressure together with a United Europe) Same same in the UK and Brexit. Although there are certainly double blind assets for these parties who also enjoy the rewards of this system and like to promote or sustain it. The extreme right, fake medicine, disinformation sites. It has become an system in its own right. Edits : formatting for clarity.

prox 7y ago
Instead of downvoting, comment on the errors in the assessment.