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They used to have a shiny Apple logo on the lid, but now they have only black logo. Still, you won't find one on non-mac hardware.

dijit 7y ago
This idea that anyone who buys Apple products is a sheep buying it purely for the brand needs to die. It doesn’t lend itself to a conversation about why people might choose differently to you. Ignorance is not helping either side.
- Andrew_nenakhov 7y ago
  What really needs to die are attempts of attributing your own ideas to other people. No one but you was saying anything about sheep buying and that brand is the sole reason for buying Apple products. Disclosure: I own a lot of Apple products, though I still prefer Ubuntu to MacOS.
  - dijit 7y ago
    You directly implied that people are buying Apple products for the logo. I don’t believe I misinterpreted that.
    - Andrew_nenakhov 7y ago
      I was just answering the question "What does Mac hardware have that others don't?" in the most direct way possible. Do you disagree that everything else in Mac hardware is matched by other manufacturers? And your beliefs about what you presume other people imply should probably stay out of this discussion.
    - aguyfromnb 7y ago
      >You directly implied that people are buying Apple products for the logo. Apple makes kick-ass machines, but I see Macbook Pros everywhere. How many people in the real world need a $2000+ computer? If these people aren't buying it for the logo, what are they buying it for? Apple has positioned themselves as a lifestyle brand. How can you deny that?
      - inanutshellus 7y ago
        One counterpoint - Trust in quality. I'm looking at buying a laptop right now and I can either buy an apple MBP ... OR a MONSTER laptop with much better specs for the same-or-less price. I'm hand-wringing over it. With past laptops I've only been disappointed by the non-Apple laptops I've had. Bad ram, bad battery, bad battery again, bad battery AGAIN, slow-for-hardware-misfiring issues... or the Apple that has been a truly reliable machine for going on nine years. Trust in Quality. That's my "denial".
        readwind 7y ago
        You'll get more "SCSI" when you buy macs, if you're a poser, at least, or a signaller, is probably more polite. 'You' is general of course, but, I think this is how it works. You'll be rolling in the SCSI with a mac, or if you plan to hang out with lots of bald men with the Steve Jobs kind of spiel, or something. I'd guess this is how it works. If any of those things are your thing, you should go for the mac, man. But all that is a shitty landscape, opinions are mine. I meant no offense. But you see how things work out there.
        inanutshellus 7y ago
        I too used to be a anti-snob snob, sneering at Apple-buyers buying into a clique. Then work gave me a Mac. Suddenly I had a Linux machine without the headaches. It took me about 6 months to get used to the OS, but by then I loved it and bought one for the house. I now have a Linux machine at work and am spending my weekend upgrading the operating system because my video card goes insane and it takes me 3 days of fiddling to finally get it working again. YES, SPEND MY WEEKEND WORKING SO MY VIDEO CARD WILL WORK. But my Mac has VIM, grep, awk, cron, sed, and find. A real Linux shell, in other words. It also runs most of the Linux apps I want to run. Also, I know they didn't stealthily give me a cheap-ass battery that's going to need replacing right outside of warranty. I know it'll be fine. My laptop isn't a status symbol for you to see and adore. Honestly? I wish I could hide the fact that I had a Mac so that I wouldn't worry that it'd be stolen at conferences! ... Anyway. I humbly suggest that you may be the thing you despise: An Apple snob. Just not the kind most people know. Maybe you're the "Granny Smith" type of Apple snobs. ;-)
- insideBig3 7y ago
  I highly recommend taking a marketing class.

dijit 7y ago

This idea that anyone who buys Apple products is a sheep buying it purely for the brand needs to die. It doesn’t lend itself to a conversation about why people might choose differently to you. Ignorance is not helping either side.

Andrew_nenakhov 7y ago
What really needs to die are attempts of attributing your own ideas to other people. No one but you was saying anything about sheep buying and that brand is the sole reason for buying Apple products. Disclosure: I own a lot of Apple products, though I still prefer Ubuntu to MacOS.
- dijit 7y ago
  You directly implied that people are buying Apple products for the logo. I don’t believe I misinterpreted that.
  - Andrew_nenakhov 7y ago
    I was just answering the question "What does Mac hardware have that others don't?" in the most direct way possible. Do you disagree that everything else in Mac hardware is matched by other manufacturers? And your beliefs about what you presume other people imply should probably stay out of this discussion.
  - aguyfromnb 7y ago
    >You directly implied that people are buying Apple products for the logo. Apple makes kick-ass machines, but I see Macbook Pros everywhere. How many people in the real world need a $2000+ computer? If these people aren't buying it for the logo, what are they buying it for? Apple has positioned themselves as a lifestyle brand. How can you deny that?
    - inanutshellus 7y ago
      One counterpoint - Trust in quality. I'm looking at buying a laptop right now and I can either buy an apple MBP ... OR a MONSTER laptop with much better specs for the same-or-less price. I'm hand-wringing over it. With past laptops I've only been disappointed by the non-Apple laptops I've had. Bad ram, bad battery, bad battery again, bad battery AGAIN, slow-for-hardware-misfiring issues... or the Apple that has been a truly reliable machine for going on nine years. Trust in Quality. That's my "denial".
      - readwind 7y ago
        You'll get more "SCSI" when you buy macs, if you're a poser, at least, or a signaller, is probably more polite. 'You' is general of course, but, I think this is how it works. You'll be rolling in the SCSI with a mac, or if you plan to hang out with lots of bald men with the Steve Jobs kind of spiel, or something. I'd guess this is how it works. If any of those things are your thing, you should go for the mac, man. But all that is a shitty landscape, opinions are mine. I meant no offense. But you see how things work out there.
        inanutshellus 7y ago
        I too used to be a anti-snob snob, sneering at Apple-buyers buying into a clique. Then work gave me a Mac. Suddenly I had a Linux machine without the headaches. It took me about 6 months to get used to the OS, but by then I loved it and bought one for the house. I now have a Linux machine at work and am spending my weekend upgrading the operating system because my video card goes insane and it takes me 3 days of fiddling to finally get it working again. YES, SPEND MY WEEKEND WORKING SO MY VIDEO CARD WILL WORK. But my Mac has VIM, grep, awk, cron, sed, and find. A real Linux shell, in other words. It also runs most of the Linux apps I want to run. Also, I know they didn't stealthily give me a cheap-ass battery that's going to need replacing right outside of warranty. I know it'll be fine. My laptop isn't a status symbol for you to see and adore. Honestly? I wish I could hide the fact that I had a Mac so that I wouldn't worry that it'd be stolen at conferences! ... Anyway. I humbly suggest that you may be the thing you despise: An Apple snob. Just not the kind most people know. Maybe you're the "Granny Smith" type of Apple snobs. ;-)
insideBig3 7y ago
I highly recommend taking a marketing class.