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I assume these are going to be branded as completely voluntary. Like, completely voluntary until you want to have health insurance, buy a flight ticket or maybe

I assume these are going to be branded as completely voluntary. Like, completely voluntary until you want to have health insurance, buy a flight ticket or maybe be employed in certain/most industries. In those cases someone is going to tell you that, you must to be running the app or whatever tool is invented to track your contacts.

encom 6y ago
I'll be honest, this virus situation has me super scared. Governments everywhere are giving themselves powers they should not have, and I doubt they are going to relinquish them once this blows over. Police are acting gestapo-ish in a lot of places. Meanwhile, Big Tech are developing even creepier ways to track everyone while pretending to save the world. In fact, every time some tech company involves themselves with this covid situation, it rubs me completely the wrong way. Apple, just go back to making overpriced computers. Twitter, Facebook and Google wants to have the final say of what is and isn't the ultimate truth, like the goddamn thought police. On the whole, people are capable of sniffing out bullshit for themselves, and if they're not, Facebook can't save them from themselves, and convince them that 5G does not cause bat flu. Just stay out of it, and let the medical professionals sort out this mess. I think the world has broken, and it won't go together again properly.
- zrobotics 6y ago
  I actually ran across a YouTube comment the other day that was claiming the bar that comes up below any covid related video was part of their attempts to suppress the truth. I know that poe's law says it might have been sarcasm, but somehow I don't think any of the actions the big tech companies have taken have really done all that much to stop these beliefs. It might be somewhat the opposite; the classic conspiracy theory meme is that the powers that be are suppressing the truth. It has been well publicised that these sites are cracking down on what these people believe to be the truth, which could easily be taken as evidence that they hold the correct view. I wish I had some sort of idea of how to prevent this, but as I see it these sorts of actions are possibly worse than doing nothing. The only positive thing I've noticed recently is that YouTube has somewhat mitigated the recommendation algorithm pushing ever-more extreme polarizing content.
roenxi 6y ago
Technically speaking, calculating how much taxpayers owe to the US Federal government involves "completely voluntary" actions [0]. A very humorous legal turn of phrase, someone was having a lot of fun when that slipped into the language of the law. [0] https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-income-tax-voluntary/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-income-tax-voluntary/

encom 6y ago

I'll be honest, this virus situation has me super scared. Governments everywhere are giving themselves powers they should not have, and I doubt they are going to relinquish them once this blows over. Police are acting gestapo-ish in a lot of places. Meanwhile, Big Tech are developing even creepier ways to track everyone while pretending to save the world. In fact, every time some tech company involves themselves with this covid situation, it rubs me completely the wrong way. Apple, just go back to making overpriced computers. Twitter, Facebook and Google wants to have the final say of what is and isn't the ultimate truth, like the goddamn thought police. On the whole, people are capable of sniffing out bullshit for themselves, and if they're not, Facebook can't save them from themselves, and convince them that 5G does not cause bat flu. Just stay out of it, and let the medical professionals sort out this mess. I think the world has broken, and it won't go together again properly.

zrobotics 6y ago
I actually ran across a YouTube comment the other day that was claiming the bar that comes up below any covid related video was part of their attempts to suppress the truth. I know that poe's law says it might have been sarcasm, but somehow I don't think any of the actions the big tech companies have taken have really done all that much to stop these beliefs. It might be somewhat the opposite; the classic conspiracy theory meme is that the powers that be are suppressing the truth. It has been well publicised that these sites are cracking down on what these people believe to be the truth, which could easily be taken as evidence that they hold the correct view. I wish I had some sort of idea of how to prevent this, but as I see it these sorts of actions are possibly worse than doing nothing. The only positive thing I've noticed recently is that YouTube has somewhat mitigated the recommendation algorithm pushing ever-more extreme polarizing content.

roenxi 6y ago

Technically speaking, calculating how much taxpayers owe to the US Federal government involves "completely voluntary" actions [0]. A very humorous legal turn of phrase, someone was having a lot of fun when that slipped into the language of the law. [0] https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-income-tax-voluntary/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-income-tax-voluntary/