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So much frustration over something that in theory is so good for building stuff. If you go over to http://agilemanifesto.org/ http://agilemanifesto.org/ and re

So much frustration over something that in theory is so good for building stuff. If you go over to http://agilemanifesto.org/ http://agilemanifesto.org/ and read these simple 4 sentences, it makes sense: * Individuals and interactions over processes and tools * Working software over comprehensive documentation * Customer collaboration over contract negotiation * Responding to change over following a plan What goes horribly wrong is managers, and their incapability. They do not work with teams, instead they use agile as a means to simply get updates at the end of week and set orders down the ranks every Monday morning.

nicetryguy 6y ago
- Individuals and interactions over processes and tools - Customer collaboration over contract negotiation - Responding to change over following a plan Would any of these work for, say, building a house? I hate agile from the bottom of my heart.
- brainless 6y ago
  I can not even try to answer that since they are not even remotely equal. How often do you change the way you walk through your house, or how the water flows or the walls look? Do you launch a new bed in your house to charge people to see every month? They are not even comparable, like at all. If all you have is hate for something sure you can not understand it.
  - nicetryguy 6y ago
    I have seen and tried to maintain the years of spaghetti code and quick hacks that Agile projects generate. It is a nightmare. I think i understand it just fine. It is a flawed premise. Projects should have concrete specifications and expectations at the get go. I shouldn't be forced to code quickly with a sprint gun to my head at all times, generating heaps of tech debt by having no time to retool unstable or inefficient portions of a project, as i am always busy scotch taping on new features that the codebase was never designed to handle. If the customer wants a horse to run 60mph backwards, and the project manager has no idea that a horse cannot possibly do that, i have to hear why my "horse" should have been designed with Agile philosophy in mind. Agile is nothing but a bunch of techno-babble that "sounds good" but offers no practical advice on how to achieve those ends. It is the scourge of the earth and would love to see it purged from collective consciousness.

nicetryguy 6y ago

- Individuals and interactions over processes and tools - Customer collaboration over contract negotiation - Responding to change over following a plan Would any of these work for, say, building a house? I hate agile from the bottom of my heart.

brainless 6y ago
I can not even try to answer that since they are not even remotely equal. How often do you change the way you walk through your house, or how the water flows or the walls look? Do you launch a new bed in your house to charge people to see every month? They are not even comparable, like at all. If all you have is hate for something sure you can not understand it.
- nicetryguy 6y ago
  I have seen and tried to maintain the years of spaghetti code and quick hacks that Agile projects generate. It is a nightmare. I think i understand it just fine. It is a flawed premise. Projects should have concrete specifications and expectations at the get go. I shouldn't be forced to code quickly with a sprint gun to my head at all times, generating heaps of tech debt by having no time to retool unstable or inefficient portions of a project, as i am always busy scotch taping on new features that the codebase was never designed to handle. If the customer wants a horse to run 60mph backwards, and the project manager has no idea that a horse cannot possibly do that, i have to hear why my "horse" should have been designed with Agile philosophy in mind. Agile is nothing but a bunch of techno-babble that "sounds good" but offers no practical advice on how to achieve those ends. It is the scourge of the earth and would love to see it purged from collective consciousness.