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> “Some people are completely opposed to an intrusion on privacy but there’s a younger generation sharing their location on dozens of apps,” Burgum said. Funny

> “Some people are completely opposed to an intrusion on privacy but there’s a younger generation sharing their location on dozens of apps,” Burgum said. Funny, when you tell young people that by the time they leave the food court, descend the escalator and exit the mall, 100 companies know what, where and when they bought dinner, they stop using digital payments.

aspenmayer 7y ago
But do they also turn off their phones while shopping? Just kidding, that would be an absurd overreaction. Surely they at least do the responsible thing and turn off Bluetooth and WiFi? No? If the kids are alright, it’s in an ignorance is bliss kinda way.
- redis_mlc 7y ago
  Your last sentence is so true. For those who don't know what I'm talking about, retailers sell their purchases info to Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc. who can then combine your email inbox and browing history with your purchase data. About as "1984" as you can get.
  - aspenmayer 7y ago
    We’re part of some Google Business listing navigation program or AdWords conversion tracking program at work. We applied and got a postcard with a two-factor code in our business mailbox. We validated our address in this way. Later we received what appears to be either a Bluvison (now HID) BVBLN5W-IDT or BVBI45W-IDT. The former does BLE beacon functions and motion detection. The latter does even more: Motion, Light, Vibration (3-axis, up to 800 hz), Magnetometer, Temperature -13° to +149° F (-25° to +65° C) I’m guessing for the Google program we are part of, we got the BVBLN5W-IDT. It’s available for $31.20 USD in quantities of 20 or less direct from the vendor HID, “for demo purposes only,” of course. Here’s some info I found about it and the Google programs. FCC info https://fcc.io/SL6-BEEKSIBEEK https://fcc.io/SL6-BEEKSIBEEK Datasheet https://www.hidglobal.com/sites/default/files/resource_files/idt-hid-bluvision-beeks-beacons-ds-en.pdf https://www.hidglobal.com/sites/default/files/resource_files... Google Project Beacon info related to the My Business program https://developers.google.com/beacons/place-visits https://developers.google.com/beacons/place-visits Google My Business program beacon setup guide https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/7577917?hl=en https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/7577917?hl=en A video that goes over the pack-in documents and the beacon and what it does https://youtube.com/watch?v=tm2Qr0e_JV8 https://youtube.com/watch?v=tm2Qr0e_JV8 Who made the beacon we got https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161201005500/en/HID-Global-Acquires-Bluvision-Expand-Bluetooth-Solutions https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161201005500/en/HID...
  - kmlx 7y ago
    > who can then combine your email inbox this if false when it comes to Gmail. they do not check your emails.
joshuamorton 7y ago
But companies know that using credit cards anyway. So they haven't gained anything.
kmlx 7y ago
your premises is absurd. Google can't imprison me, Google can't take my rights away, Google can't force me to flee the country. By equating the rights of the US Gov with the rights of a Corp. your are creating a dangerous narrative. The state is the entity we should all be warning about. Corporations on the other hand are innocent little puppies compared with the power of the US Gov. the US Gov can literally kill you and walk away.

aspenmayer 7y ago

But do they also turn off their phones while shopping? Just kidding, that would be an absurd overreaction. Surely they at least do the responsible thing and turn off Bluetooth and WiFi? No? If the kids are alright, it’s in an ignorance is bliss kinda way.

redis_mlc 7y ago
Your last sentence is so true. For those who don't know what I'm talking about, retailers sell their purchases info to Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc. who can then combine your email inbox and browing history with your purchase data. About as "1984" as you can get.
- aspenmayer 7y ago
  We’re part of some Google Business listing navigation program or AdWords conversion tracking program at work. We applied and got a postcard with a two-factor code in our business mailbox. We validated our address in this way. Later we received what appears to be either a Bluvison (now HID) BVBLN5W-IDT or BVBI45W-IDT. The former does BLE beacon functions and motion detection. The latter does even more: Motion, Light, Vibration (3-axis, up to 800 hz), Magnetometer, Temperature -13° to +149° F (-25° to +65° C) I’m guessing for the Google program we are part of, we got the BVBLN5W-IDT. It’s available for $31.20 USD in quantities of 20 or less direct from the vendor HID, “for demo purposes only,” of course. Here’s some info I found about it and the Google programs. FCC info https://fcc.io/SL6-BEEKSIBEEK https://fcc.io/SL6-BEEKSIBEEK Datasheet https://www.hidglobal.com/sites/default/files/resource_files/idt-hid-bluvision-beeks-beacons-ds-en.pdf https://www.hidglobal.com/sites/default/files/resource_files... Google Project Beacon info related to the My Business program https://developers.google.com/beacons/place-visits https://developers.google.com/beacons/place-visits Google My Business program beacon setup guide https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/7577917?hl=en https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/7577917?hl=en A video that goes over the pack-in documents and the beacon and what it does https://youtube.com/watch?v=tm2Qr0e_JV8 https://youtube.com/watch?v=tm2Qr0e_JV8 Who made the beacon we got https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161201005500/en/HID-Global-Acquires-Bluvision-Expand-Bluetooth-Solutions https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161201005500/en/HID...
- kmlx 7y ago
  > who can then combine your email inbox this if false when it comes to Gmail. they do not check your emails.

joshuamorton 7y ago

But companies know that using credit cards anyway. So they haven't gained anything.

kmlx 7y ago

your premises is absurd. Google can't imprison me, Google can't take my rights away, Google can't force me to flee the country. By equating the rights of the US Gov with the rights of a Corp. your are creating a dangerous narrative. The state is the entity we should all be warning about. Corporations on the other hand are innocent little puppies compared with the power of the US Gov. the US Gov can literally kill you and walk away.