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This whole thing may have ignited when one of the maintainers put an entry in the fortunes file that made fun of that: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packag

by Igelau 7y ago

This whole thing may have ignited when one of the maintainers put an entry in the fortunes file that made fun of that: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/commit/c3b796acace52e275ff069347c21000f48138f28 https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/commit/c3b796aca... Smells to me like they deliberately set him off so they'd have an excuse to stage a coup. Could be wrong, but this distro looks like it's maintained by a den of vipers and I'm sure as hell not going near it.

RunningDroid 7y ago
>stage a coup From tfa: >This is not the first time xtraeme has left Void. I wrote about this on my personal site back in 2018, and you can read that full article over there.
- Igelau 7y ago
  But then... > Did xtraeme resign or was he banned? > Timing is everything. The ticket which expressed xtraeme’s desire to resign was opened first, then over the next hour he lashed out at several project members. The resignation was processed per his wishes, and per his conduct torwards others a ban was applied at the organization level. That's not a "yes, he resigned." That's dodgy political talk.
  - catach 7y ago
    I don't know how else you'd answer the question when it's "both".
resfirestar 7y ago
No, that particular commit was in the aftermath. xtraeme's angry tweets started at 7:40 PDT, access to infrastructure was cut off at 8:40, and that commit was at 9:32. The individual who made the commit apologized on reddit and said it wasn't intended as a reference to xtraeme's personal situation. Terrible form though and certainly didn't help matters, but I think the outcome was determined by that point.
- Igelau 7y ago
  That's kind of true? The one that made the divorce crack apologized and seems to have an innocent enough explanation. Look again though, the one that actually made the commit (Vaelatern) is trying to be sly by saying they just found it amusing, and only going so far as to say they "support the decision" to revert it. While this couldn't have set it off timeline-wise, it paints a picture that someone was trying to goad him into going too far.
ahesford 7y ago
This was not the flashpoint, and the comment was not an attempt to make fun of xtraeme's situation. I had no knowledge of his situation until long after that comment was made, pushed to the fortune file, and reverted. Watching the situation unfold reminded me acutely of the arguing and escalation I witnessed in the aftermath of my parents' divorce and the gradual destruction of my father's second marriage. I made the comment in an attempt to lighten the mood in a Void IRC channel while a situation that nobody wanted in the first place spun out of control. Knowing how the comment was perceived, I regret making it. I also regret that it has now been immortalized by another user in the commit logs of void-packages.
eredengrin 7y ago
Yes, from what I've seen I'm not too impressed with the dev who made that commit, but really, now you're going to generalize that and call the entire group of maintainers a "den of vipers"? Who do you think reverted that commit? (Hint: probably somebody with a commit bit.)

by Igelau 7y ago

RunningDroid 7y ago

>stage a coup From tfa: >This is not the first time xtraeme has left Void. I wrote about this on my personal site back in 2018, and you can read that full article over there.

Igelau 7y ago
But then... > Did xtraeme resign or was he banned? > Timing is everything. The ticket which expressed xtraeme’s desire to resign was opened first, then over the next hour he lashed out at several project members. The resignation was processed per his wishes, and per his conduct torwards others a ban was applied at the organization level. That's not a "yes, he resigned." That's dodgy political talk.
- catach 7y ago
  I don't know how else you'd answer the question when it's "both".

resfirestar 7y ago

No, that particular commit was in the aftermath. xtraeme's angry tweets started at 7:40 PDT, access to infrastructure was cut off at 8:40, and that commit was at 9:32. The individual who made the commit apologized on reddit and said it wasn't intended as a reference to xtraeme's personal situation. Terrible form though and certainly didn't help matters, but I think the outcome was determined by that point.

Igelau 7y ago
That's kind of true? The one that made the divorce crack apologized and seems to have an innocent enough explanation. Look again though, the one that actually made the commit (Vaelatern) is trying to be sly by saying they just found it amusing, and only going so far as to say they "support the decision" to revert it. While this couldn't have set it off timeline-wise, it paints a picture that someone was trying to goad him into going too far.

ahesford 7y ago

This was not the flashpoint, and the comment was not an attempt to make fun of xtraeme's situation. I had no knowledge of his situation until long after that comment was made, pushed to the fortune file, and reverted. Watching the situation unfold reminded me acutely of the arguing and escalation I witnessed in the aftermath of my parents' divorce and the gradual destruction of my father's second marriage. I made the comment in an attempt to lighten the mood in a Void IRC channel while a situation that nobody wanted in the first place spun out of control. Knowing how the comment was perceived, I regret making it. I also regret that it has now been immortalized by another user in the commit logs of void-packages.

eredengrin 7y ago

Yes, from what I've seen I'm not too impressed with the dev who made that commit, but really, now you're going to generalize that and call the entire group of maintainers a "den of vipers"? Who do you think reverted that commit? (Hint: probably somebody with a commit bit.)