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>and I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting. That's a pretty far cry from telling people to inject bleach, which is the narrativ

by swebs 6y ago

>and I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting. That's a pretty far cry from telling people to inject bleach, which is the narrative some outlets are trying to spin right now.

splitrocket 6y ago
It's entirely too close for the leader of the free world. It's also remarkably stupid. Like astoundingly dumb. To quote Craig Manzin: 'One of the hallmarks of the dangerously stupid is the consistent belief they’ve found great solutions that experts somehow missed.'
- bpnichol 6y ago
  The Manzin quote isn't appropriate. The experts themselves have stated they're still investigating the virus and potential solutions. Trump wasn't suggesting they experts missed something.
  - splitrocket 6y ago
    It is entirely appropriate. One person died from ingesting hydroxychloroquine[1]. Perscriptions for hydroxychloroquine increased 46X. [2] It turns out that taking it killed more people than the control group. [3]. The Maryland Emergency Management Agency received over 100 calls about injecting disinfectant as a potential cure. [4] You know, it's possible to explore highly experimental therapies for a novel disease without naming them explicitly at the presidential press briefing during a pandemic. Doing so is INCREDIBLY irresponsible, as evidenced above. [1] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-news-arizona-man-dies-after-taking-chloroquine-drug-touted-by-trump-as-treatment/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-news-arizona-man-di... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/25/us/coronavirus-trump-chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/25/us/coronavirus-trump-chlo... [3] https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2 https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2 [4] https://abcnews.go.com/Health/coronavirus-updates-china-reports-covid-19-deaths-9th/story?id=70324535 https://abcnews.go.com/Health/coronavirus-updates-china-repo...
newacct583 6y ago
I'm seeing this a lot, but it's pretty clear that's exactly what he was saying, just confusingly. Here's a transcript (I couldn't find a more official link, but it definitely matches the video): https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-coronavirus-press-conference-transcript-april-23 https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-coronaviru... Bill Bryan stands up and reports that they've tested a bunch of disinfectant processes in vitro and on surfaces, including bleach. Then Trump immediately begins riffing on that, before the guy sits down, and says, verbatim: > [...] And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. Now, no one is going to call that a clear statement. But in context it seems really obvious to me that he's talking about injecting exactly the list of disinfectants that he's referring to.

by swebs 6y ago

splitrocket 6y ago

It's entirely too close for the leader of the free world. It's also remarkably stupid. Like astoundingly dumb. To quote Craig Manzin: 'One of the hallmarks of the dangerously stupid is the consistent belief they’ve found great solutions that experts somehow missed.'

bpnichol 6y ago
The Manzin quote isn't appropriate. The experts themselves have stated they're still investigating the virus and potential solutions. Trump wasn't suggesting they experts missed something.
- splitrocket 6y ago
  It is entirely appropriate. One person died from ingesting hydroxychloroquine[1]. Perscriptions for hydroxychloroquine increased 46X. [2] It turns out that taking it killed more people than the control group. [3]. The Maryland Emergency Management Agency received over 100 calls about injecting disinfectant as a potential cure. [4] You know, it's possible to explore highly experimental therapies for a novel disease without naming them explicitly at the presidential press briefing during a pandemic. Doing so is INCREDIBLY irresponsible, as evidenced above. [1] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-news-arizona-man-dies-after-taking-chloroquine-drug-touted-by-trump-as-treatment/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-news-arizona-man-di... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/25/us/coronavirus-trump-chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/25/us/coronavirus-trump-chlo... [3] https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2 https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2 [4] https://abcnews.go.com/Health/coronavirus-updates-china-reports-covid-19-deaths-9th/story?id=70324535 https://abcnews.go.com/Health/coronavirus-updates-china-repo...

newacct583 6y ago

I'm seeing this a lot, but it's pretty clear that's exactly what he was saying, just confusingly. Here's a transcript (I couldn't find a more official link, but it definitely matches the video): https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-coronavirus-press-conference-transcript-april-23 https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-coronaviru... Bill Bryan stands up and reports that they've tested a bunch of disinfectant processes in vitro and on surfaces, including bleach. Then Trump immediately begins riffing on that, before the guy sits down, and says, verbatim: > [...] And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. Now, no one is going to call that a clear statement. But in context it seems really obvious to me that he's talking about injecting exactly the list of disinfectants that he's referring to.