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> He also won, with fewer votes than his competition, while only half of eligible voters cast ballots. I don’t think that’s right. The presidential vote count

> He also won, with fewer votes than his competition, while only half of eligible voters cast ballots. I don’t think that’s right. The presidential vote count in the 2016 election was 304 Trump to 227 Clinton [0]. And all 50 states voted. What system are you going by? > You're allowed to view this person as illegitimate Yes, you are. The constitution grants all sorts of protections from the government for ideas right or wrong. However... If you are using said constitution’s rules for how STATES vote for president, not people vote for president... [0] https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2016 https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2016 Edit: I’m confused by reaction, where is the incorrect part here? Edit2: Oh, the reaction is emotional. I see

slavak 6y ago
I think it's pretty clear "votes" meant what's known in the US as "the popular vote," not "electoral votes," particularly since it's impossible, under the US election system, to win the presidential elections with fewer electoral votes than the opponent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidentia...
- SlowRobotAhead 6y ago
  But that’s not the voting system we use. So, no, Trump didn’t win with fewer “votes” if we’re at all being intellectually honest about what votes matter. This site is all about intellectuals being honest and arguing in good faith using the steel man method right? Edit: “Stop” what? Are the rules of this site not steel man arguments with intellectual honesty? I’m genuinely confused and not trolling at all - where I have posted something incorrect? Because Dang, if the content isn’t correct, why is the post now flagged? If it’s correct info and -10 or so... isn’t that a problem that creates an echo chamber?
  - dang 6y ago
    Please stop.

slavak 6y ago

I think it's pretty clear "votes" meant what's known in the US as "the popular vote," not "electoral votes," particularly since it's impossible, under the US election system, to win the presidential elections with fewer electoral votes than the opponent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidentia...

SlowRobotAhead 6y ago
But that’s not the voting system we use. So, no, Trump didn’t win with fewer “votes” if we’re at all being intellectually honest about what votes matter. This site is all about intellectuals being honest and arguing in good faith using the steel man method right? Edit: “Stop” what? Are the rules of this site not steel man arguments with intellectual honesty? I’m genuinely confused and not trolling at all - where I have posted something incorrect? Because Dang, if the content isn’t correct, why is the post now flagged? If it’s correct info and -10 or so... isn’t that a problem that creates an echo chamber?
- dang 6y ago
  Please stop.