Here is the talk by Dave Thomas https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Thomas_%28programmer%29?wprov=sfla1 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Thomas_%28programm

Here is the talk by Dave Thomas https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Thomas_%28programmer%29?wprov=sfla1 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Thomas_%28programmer%29... https://youtu.be/a-BOSpxYJ9M https://youtu.be/a-BOSpxYJ9M