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> I don't think humans are made for vegan diets I've been vegan for around 6 months now, and haven't dropped dead yet. If anything, I feel the same as I did be

by vzidex 6y ago

> I don't think humans are made for vegan diets I've been vegan for around 6 months now, and haven't dropped dead yet. If anything, I feel the same as I did before - on a vegetarian diet - and before that - on the standard Western diet. As long as you eat a balanced diet with enough protein, fat, and carbs humans can thrive on a vegan diet just fine.

jotm 6y ago
That's nice, but 6 months is nothing. Yes, I've read about people going vegan for years. I've also read about people going back to eating meat/eggs/dairy and feeling better. Afaik there's some nutrients that are simply missing in a purely vegan diet.
- erpellan 6y ago
  If someone showed you a picture of a morbidly obese person and ask you what you thought they ate, what would your first thought be? I'm fairly sure it wouldn't be 'they need to cut down on the vegetables'. How many super overweight people do you know who eat all vegetables and whole grains? There are always outliers but the cliche western 'bad diet' is too much meat, fat, processed carbs and dairy. I'm a reluctant part-time vegetarian - pizza is my spirit animal. But I cannot ignore the cognitive dissonance I experience with a lot of the 'bargaining' style diets being pushed. My animal brain really wants to believe there is a healthy diet that lets me pile on the bacon and chorizo and still lose weight but the evidence just doesn't support it.
  - jotm 6y ago
    What does that even have to do with this thread? But w/e, the diet you're looking for is keto - zero carbs, which incidentally is mostly from grain, works. Meat and fat alone do not cause obesity, but together with carbs they fatten you up more effectively.
    - geddy 6y ago
      They don't necessarily cause obesity, but they sure don't help. I lost tons of body fat when I stopped eating meat and dairy/eggs. Literally the only thing that changed was I ate more fiber and less fat. And of course removing trans fat and cholesterol from my diet, because they are only found in animal products. Too much refined sugars + animal products = fat population.
- geddy 6y ago
  Vegan for a year and a half and still crushing PRs and feeling incredible. Wife's pregnant and has had zero complications, no sickness, nothing. Also, she probably deadlifts more than more people on this thread. The only nutrients "missing" are B12 and D, which are easily supplemented and/or found in fortified foods (cereals, plant milks etc). And the funniest bit - they only exist in meat because they are supplemented into cow feed. That's right - you're already supplementing D and B12.

by vzidex 6y ago

jotm 6y ago

That's nice, but 6 months is nothing. Yes, I've read about people going vegan for years. I've also read about people going back to eating meat/eggs/dairy and feeling better. Afaik there's some nutrients that are simply missing in a purely vegan diet.

erpellan 6y ago
If someone showed you a picture of a morbidly obese person and ask you what you thought they ate, what would your first thought be? I'm fairly sure it wouldn't be 'they need to cut down on the vegetables'. How many super overweight people do you know who eat all vegetables and whole grains? There are always outliers but the cliche western 'bad diet' is too much meat, fat, processed carbs and dairy. I'm a reluctant part-time vegetarian - pizza is my spirit animal. But I cannot ignore the cognitive dissonance I experience with a lot of the 'bargaining' style diets being pushed. My animal brain really wants to believe there is a healthy diet that lets me pile on the bacon and chorizo and still lose weight but the evidence just doesn't support it.
- jotm 6y ago
  What does that even have to do with this thread? But w/e, the diet you're looking for is keto - zero carbs, which incidentally is mostly from grain, works. Meat and fat alone do not cause obesity, but together with carbs they fatten you up more effectively.
  - geddy 6y ago
    They don't necessarily cause obesity, but they sure don't help. I lost tons of body fat when I stopped eating meat and dairy/eggs. Literally the only thing that changed was I ate more fiber and less fat. And of course removing trans fat and cholesterol from my diet, because they are only found in animal products. Too much refined sugars + animal products = fat population.
geddy 6y ago
Vegan for a year and a half and still crushing PRs and feeling incredible. Wife's pregnant and has had zero complications, no sickness, nothing. Also, she probably deadlifts more than more people on this thread. The only nutrients "missing" are B12 and D, which are easily supplemented and/or found in fortified foods (cereals, plant milks etc). And the funniest bit - they only exist in meat because they are supplemented into cow feed. That's right - you're already supplementing D and B12.