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> Given his mention of disinfectants at the same time, it's far more likely they just told him how they disinfect surfaces like doorknobs and countertops and he

> Given his mention of disinfectants at the same time, it's far more likely they just told him how they disinfect surfaces like doorknobs and countertops and he ran with it. I mean even if UBI and/or ozonetherapy don't work at all and are wildly dangerous, at least Trump knew what they were, which makes him smarter than everyone posting about how they don't even know what he's talking about.

ceejayoz 7y ago
> at least Trump knew what they were There is zero evidence that Trump has any clue UIB exists.
- Alex3917 7y ago
  The exact quote from him was that the head of the Homeland Security's science and technology division told him they were going to test it: "And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're going to test that, too."
  - rsynnott 7y ago
    But... that's not even a description of this technique. To be clear, this technique does not in any way involve putting a UV source inside the body. It's more like dialysis, in that it happens externally. The only similarity to what Trump was wittering on about is that it involves UV. It's very unlikely to have been what gave him the idea.
    - Alex3917 7y ago
      > To be clear, this technique does not in any way involve putting a UV source inside the body. There are people who do it both ways. As another commenter pointed you, you can buy devices that do the same thing that work inside the body: https://vielight.com/ https://vielight.com/
      - rsynnott 7y ago
        That's also not internal; it's on the surface. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-level_laser_therapy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-level_laser_therapy
        Alex3917 7y ago
        Not a medical expert, but Encyclopedia Britannica seems to say that the nasal cavity counts as an internal space: https://www.britannica.com/science/nasal-cavity https://www.britannica.com/science/nasal-cavity
  - cthalupa 7y ago
    We have two scenarios here: 1) Trump knew about UBI, a fringe medical practice used primarily in Russia decades ago 2) Trump heard them talking just moments before about how UV light disinfects outdoor surfaces and kills the virus, and that using chemical disinfectants also killed the virus, and then proceeded to talk about how you could inject disinfectant or put UV light inside the body. Occam's Razor would point us towards the latter. It's just a lot less convoluted to believe he was talking about the same topic the entire prior discussion had been around than to believe he's talking about an obscure and unproven medical practice decades removed from use.

ceejayoz 7y ago

> at least Trump knew what they were There is zero evidence that Trump has any clue UIB exists.

Alex3917 7y ago
The exact quote from him was that the head of the Homeland Security's science and technology division told him they were going to test it: "And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're going to test that, too."
- rsynnott 7y ago
  But... that's not even a description of this technique. To be clear, this technique does not in any way involve putting a UV source inside the body. It's more like dialysis, in that it happens externally. The only similarity to what Trump was wittering on about is that it involves UV. It's very unlikely to have been what gave him the idea.
  - Alex3917 7y ago
    > To be clear, this technique does not in any way involve putting a UV source inside the body. There are people who do it both ways. As another commenter pointed you, you can buy devices that do the same thing that work inside the body: https://vielight.com/ https://vielight.com/
    - rsynnott 7y ago
      That's also not internal; it's on the surface. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-level_laser_therapy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-level_laser_therapy
      - Alex3917 7y ago
        Not a medical expert, but Encyclopedia Britannica seems to say that the nasal cavity counts as an internal space: https://www.britannica.com/science/nasal-cavity https://www.britannica.com/science/nasal-cavity
- cthalupa 7y ago
  We have two scenarios here: 1) Trump knew about UBI, a fringe medical practice used primarily in Russia decades ago 2) Trump heard them talking just moments before about how UV light disinfects outdoor surfaces and kills the virus, and that using chemical disinfectants also killed the virus, and then proceeded to talk about how you could inject disinfectant or put UV light inside the body. Occam's Razor would point us towards the latter. It's just a lot less convoluted to believe he was talking about the same topic the entire prior discussion had been around than to believe he's talking about an obscure and unproven medical practice decades removed from use.