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> he just encouraged them to mainline it. He never said anything about mainlining bleach though.

ceejayoz 7y ago
"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. And is there a way we can do something, by an injection inside or almost a cleaning?" Bleach, isopropyl alcohol, hydrogen peroxide... Whichever disinfectant he was suggesting injecting into the body, it's not a good idea.
- stronglikedan 7y ago
  > Bleach, isopropyl alcohol, hydrogen peroxide... UV light injected into the body via fiber optics... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22969680 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22969680
fiblye 7y ago
Immediately following someone stating that disinfectants like alcohol and bleach can destroy the virus, the president did say it's worth trying out injecting disinfectants. [1] He didn't specifically say "mainlining bleach", but he was referencing injecting one of the aforementioned disinfectants. It's kind of hard to say he didn't. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtgVxGkrX1Y#t=2m5s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtgVxGkrX1Y#t=2m5s
- stronglikedan 7y ago
  He used the term "disinfectant" immediately after talking about UV light, which is a most definitely a well known disinfectant. However, he was also obviously not being clear, but never mentioned any other specific disinfectant. Therefore, the only good faith interpretation, after considering context and applying a modicum of critical thought, is that he was referring to the UV light when he used the term.
  - ceejayoz 7y ago
    Nope. Contort all you like, but here's the quote. > And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're gonna test that too, sounds interesting. And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. He's clearly talking about two things - one sentence is about light, "And I then I see the disinfectant"... - and you simply can't "inject" light.
    - stronglikedan 7y ago
      He's not clearly talking about anything, which is the problem, and the reason a good faith interpretation based on context is important. You can inject light via fiber optics. We all know 'inject" isn't the right term, but it's how he was using it. Regardless, and most importantly, he never specified any disinfectant, so in the context, he meant UV light. No contortion necessary. It's all there in the quote you provided.
      - ceejayoz 7y ago
        Still nope. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/24/disinfectant-injection-coronavirus-trump/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/24/disinfectan... > Trump’s eyebrow-raising query came immediately after William N. Bryan, the acting undersecretary for science and technology at the Department of Homeland Security, gave a presentation on the potential impact of summer heat and humidity, which also included references to tests that showed the effectiveness of different types of disinfectants. He recounted data from recent tests that showed how bleach, alcohol and sunlight could kill the coronavirus on surfaces. > Bryan said bleach killed the virus in about five minutes and isopropyl alcohol killed it in 30 seconds. In tests, sunlight and high temperatures also appeared to shorten the virus’s life on surfaces and in the air, Bryan said.
      - stronglikedan 7y ago
        To the commentor below, since I can't seem to reply directly: > Bryan said Last I checked, Bryan wasn't Trump.
anigbrowl 7y ago
Why don't you use the most good-faith interpretation of the comment, which was that it was a tongue-in-cheek characterization of how foolish people might misinterpret the president's careless remarks?
- stronglikedan 7y ago
  Well simply because I don't believe that to be a good faith interpretation, but more of a snarky question, since you asked.
  - anigbrowl 7y ago
    Surely you should exemplify the behaviors you solicit from others.
    - stronglikedan 7y ago
      Surely you just want to argue, instead of contribute, and that goes against the spirit of HN, so I'll disengage you here
      - anigbrowl 7y ago
        I asked because I noticed you going 6 levels deep arguing with someone else.

"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. And is there a way we can do something, by an injection inside or almost a cleaning?" Bleach, isopropyl alcohol, hydrogen peroxide... Whichever disinfectant he was suggesting injecting into the body, it's not a good idea.

stronglikedan 7y ago
> Bleach, isopropyl alcohol, hydrogen peroxide... UV light injected into the body via fiber optics... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22969680 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22969680

fiblye 7y ago

Immediately following someone stating that disinfectants like alcohol and bleach can destroy the virus, the president did say it's worth trying out injecting disinfectants. [1] He didn't specifically say "mainlining bleach", but he was referencing injecting one of the aforementioned disinfectants. It's kind of hard to say he didn't. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtgVxGkrX1Y#t=2m5s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtgVxGkrX1Y#t=2m5s

stronglikedan 7y ago
He used the term "disinfectant" immediately after talking about UV light, which is a most definitely a well known disinfectant. However, he was also obviously not being clear, but never mentioned any other specific disinfectant. Therefore, the only good faith interpretation, after considering context and applying a modicum of critical thought, is that he was referring to the UV light when he used the term.
- ceejayoz 7y ago
  Nope. Contort all you like, but here's the quote. > And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're gonna test that too, sounds interesting. And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. He's clearly talking about two things - one sentence is about light, "And I then I see the disinfectant"... - and you simply can't "inject" light.
  - stronglikedan 7y ago
    He's not clearly talking about anything, which is the problem, and the reason a good faith interpretation based on context is important. You can inject light via fiber optics. We all know 'inject" isn't the right term, but it's how he was using it. Regardless, and most importantly, he never specified any disinfectant, so in the context, he meant UV light. No contortion necessary. It's all there in the quote you provided.
    - ceejayoz 7y ago
      Still nope. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/24/disinfectant-injection-coronavirus-trump/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/24/disinfectan... > Trump’s eyebrow-raising query came immediately after William N. Bryan, the acting undersecretary for science and technology at the Department of Homeland Security, gave a presentation on the potential impact of summer heat and humidity, which also included references to tests that showed the effectiveness of different types of disinfectants. He recounted data from recent tests that showed how bleach, alcohol and sunlight could kill the coronavirus on surfaces. > Bryan said bleach killed the virus in about five minutes and isopropyl alcohol killed it in 30 seconds. In tests, sunlight and high temperatures also appeared to shorten the virus’s life on surfaces and in the air, Bryan said.
    - stronglikedan 7y ago
      To the commentor below, since I can't seem to reply directly: > Bryan said Last I checked, Bryan wasn't Trump.

anigbrowl 7y ago

Why don't you use the most good-faith interpretation of the comment, which was that it was a tongue-in-cheek characterization of how foolish people might misinterpret the president's careless remarks?

stronglikedan 7y ago
Well simply because I don't believe that to be a good faith interpretation, but more of a snarky question, since you asked.
- anigbrowl 7y ago
  Surely you should exemplify the behaviors you solicit from others.
  - stronglikedan 7y ago
    Surely you just want to argue, instead of contribute, and that goes against the spirit of HN, so I'll disengage you here
    - anigbrowl 7y ago
      I asked because I noticed you going 6 levels deep arguing with someone else.