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They have limitations. They also started with way lower numbers. So keeping open with limitations is way easier. Also, its probably the right approach. You ca

They have limitations. They also started with way lower numbers. So keeping open with limitations is way easier. Also, its probably the right approach. You cant lock down for one or two years at least..

CyanBird 7y ago
Saying "you can't lock down for one to two years" is an absurd strawman as nobody would ever advocate for that Having a gradient of social distancing and having it be enforced by government officials is the only sane way to avoid mass needless death which is what is happening in Sweden right about now
- noughtme 7y ago
  Sweden’s position is that deaths are not avoidable. At the end of the pandemic they expect the death rate across most countries (with the exception of some outliers, like Italy) to be broadly similar. As such they have decided it makes no sense to completely shutdown the economy with all the longterm implications that would entail. As long as moderate social distancing prevents their healthcare system from being overwhelmed, they believe that to be optimal.
tilolebo 7y ago
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_testing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_testing they don't test much, so the numbers are far from accurate.
- IkmoIkmo 7y ago
  They have around 10k tests per 1 million, that's not regarded as very little. US keeps saying it tests the most in the world and it's at 14k. Korea is known for massive testing, at 10k. Rich and well-struck countries like UK/France tests fewer cases. They're not top testers but definitely significant testers. In part it helps that they're one of the least dense countries in the world at around 20 people per square kilometer, compared to say 400/500 for the Netherlands and South Korea. The difference is less pronounced in cities of course but still there (when will we ever get population density figures for the median person who is weighted towards living in proximity, rather than a country-wide average)
  - tilolebo 7y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_testing#Virus_testing_statistics_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_testing#Virus_testing... Sweden is n. 35 in "Tests / million people", that's not good enough IMO. 16% of the tests are positive! How else do you want to control how the virus spreads? On what data do they base their decisions?

CyanBird 7y ago

Saying "you can't lock down for one to two years" is an absurd strawman as nobody would ever advocate for that Having a gradient of social distancing and having it be enforced by government officials is the only sane way to avoid mass needless death which is what is happening in Sweden right about now

noughtme 7y ago
Sweden’s position is that deaths are not avoidable. At the end of the pandemic they expect the death rate across most countries (with the exception of some outliers, like Italy) to be broadly similar. As such they have decided it makes no sense to completely shutdown the economy with all the longterm implications that would entail. As long as moderate social distancing prevents their healthcare system from being overwhelmed, they believe that to be optimal.

tilolebo 7y ago

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_testing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_testing they don't test much, so the numbers are far from accurate.

IkmoIkmo 7y ago
They have around 10k tests per 1 million, that's not regarded as very little. US keeps saying it tests the most in the world and it's at 14k. Korea is known for massive testing, at 10k. Rich and well-struck countries like UK/France tests fewer cases. They're not top testers but definitely significant testers. In part it helps that they're one of the least dense countries in the world at around 20 people per square kilometer, compared to say 400/500 for the Netherlands and South Korea. The difference is less pronounced in cities of course but still there (when will we ever get population density figures for the median person who is weighted towards living in proximity, rather than a country-wide average)
- tilolebo 7y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_testing#Virus_testing_statistics_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_testing#Virus_testing... Sweden is n. 35 in "Tests / million people", that's not good enough IMO. 16% of the tests are positive! How else do you want to control how the virus spreads? On what data do they base their decisions?