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Why would I use a PWA over a native so if I had the choice though?

paxys 7y ago
Well if the PWA experience is good enough then some developers aren't going to list their apps in the app store at all so they can bypass Apple's revenue cut. PWAs also have less access in general and so are more secure/sandboxed.
- mattpearl 7y ago
  ^ exactly and when there are big benefits to developers like that and the technology is focused on more, the maturity of what it will become is what really excites me
- rimliu 7y ago
  Except that those PWAs are not making money to get a cut from anyway. Or if they do it's via ads which makes them non-starters anyway.
- scarface74 7y ago
  Most of the revenue made from app stores come from pay to win games (which need native performance) or subscriptions that work across platforms. Many major players that use subscription prices have abandoned Apple’s subscription payments. Second issue, what are the chances that I would trust some random website with my credit card information?
fidelramos 7y ago
PWA has it much harder to spy on you and undermine your privacy. Why would I use a native app over a PWA if I had the choice?
- MaxBarraclough 7y ago
  Native apps generally have nicer UIs, better performance, and reduced resource-consumption, and may have more features.
  - fidelramos 7y ago
    All true except reduced resource consumption, I don't believe that's an universal truth. Some native apps drain a lot of battery because they do more than they should, like the Facebook app spying on you on every conceivable way (and probably also in some inconceivable ones).
    - MaxBarraclough 7y ago
      Technically I covered that under "fewer features" ;-P
- FridgeSeal 7y ago
  Surely it is the other way around? Apple will reject your app from the store if you ask for permissions not necessary for it to function. It also gives the user fine grained control and awareness of what the app has access to, for how long, etc. Some random JS app that can load in whatever it wants after the fact can make no such claim to as much security or privacy.
  - fidelramos 7y ago
    Whatever JS a page loads it cannot steal all my contacts, browse my filesystem or track my location without me giving permission, so I consider web apps much better than native apps privacy-wise. It's true that Apple does a better job at protecting the privacy of its users. I'm an Android user and privacy is terrible. I self-limit myself to use the least amount of native apps, using webapps and open-source apps as much as possible. For example right now I'm using Hacker News through it's web interface on my phone.
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Well if the PWA experience is good enough then some developers aren't going to list their apps in the app store at all so they can bypass Apple's revenue cut. PWAs also have less access in general and so are more secure/sandboxed.

mattpearl 7y ago
^ exactly and when there are big benefits to developers like that and the technology is focused on more, the maturity of what it will become is what really excites me
rimliu 7y ago
Except that those PWAs are not making money to get a cut from anyway. Or if they do it's via ads which makes them non-starters anyway.
scarface74 7y ago
Most of the revenue made from app stores come from pay to win games (which need native performance) or subscriptions that work across platforms. Many major players that use subscription prices have abandoned Apple’s subscription payments. Second issue, what are the chances that I would trust some random website with my credit card information?

fidelramos 7y ago

PWA has it much harder to spy on you and undermine your privacy. Why would I use a native app over a PWA if I had the choice?

MaxBarraclough 7y ago
Native apps generally have nicer UIs, better performance, and reduced resource-consumption, and may have more features.
- fidelramos 7y ago
  All true except reduced resource consumption, I don't believe that's an universal truth. Some native apps drain a lot of battery because they do more than they should, like the Facebook app spying on you on every conceivable way (and probably also in some inconceivable ones).
  - MaxBarraclough 7y ago
    Technically I covered that under "fewer features" ;-P
FridgeSeal 7y ago
Surely it is the other way around? Apple will reject your app from the store if you ask for permissions not necessary for it to function. It also gives the user fine grained control and awareness of what the app has access to, for how long, etc. Some random JS app that can load in whatever it wants after the fact can make no such claim to as much security or privacy.
- fidelramos 7y ago
  Whatever JS a page loads it cannot steal all my contacts, browse my filesystem or track my location without me giving permission, so I consider web apps much better than native apps privacy-wise. It's true that Apple does a better job at protecting the privacy of its users. I'm an Android user and privacy is terrible. I self-limit myself to use the least amount of native apps, using webapps and open-source apps as much as possible. For example right now I'm using Hacker News through it's web interface on my phone.

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