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Our AWS monthly spend is deep 7 figures over the last 10 years our colo projects had better uptime than AWS US East. You keep living in the marketing bubble for

by qaq 7y ago

Our AWS monthly spend is deep 7 figures over the last 10 years our colo projects had better uptime than AWS US East. You keep living in the marketing bubble for AWS.

tekknik 7y ago
I would love to see some data here. What service outages? What’s your infrastructure like? What’s your DCs uptime?
- AmericanChopper 7y ago
  There’s a few confounding factors to address before you get to the believability of the claims (which are remarkably dubious). For starters they’ve only spoken about the AWS region which is least reliable by design (as it is the first to receive new features), and they’re talking about a 10 year time span (AWS in 2010 was much less reliable than it is today). It’s also not really clear what they’re talking about when they say AWS. If it’s just the core features you’d need to forklift an on-prem service into the cloud, then the claims are especially frivolous, but the SLA difference between EC2 and AWS Ground Station is more than an order of magnitude. Even if their claims are true (which I certainly don’t believe they are), you’d be more likely to get better uptime than EC2 with a small on-prem setup through dumb luck rather than through deliberate planning. Something still has to go wrong for you to have an outage, and you’re more likely to get an incredible lucky streak than you are to outperform their entire AWS infrastructure capability with a few people and half a rack of servers.
  - qaq 7y ago
    Are you from AWS marketing :) ? AWS SLA is meaningless as there are no meaningful penalties.
- qaq 7y ago
  AWS outages you can google details 2011 April 21 Outage 2011 August 8 Outage 2012 June 29 Service disruption 2012 October 22 Outage 2012 December 24 Outage 2013 September 13 Outage 2014 November 26 Service disruption 2015 September 20 Outage 2016 June 5 Outage 2017 February 28 Outage 2018 March 2 Service degradation 2018 May 31 Outage
  - tekknik 7y ago
    There’s a terrible amount more information you’re missing here. What services were you using that went down? (not what services went down, how were you affected) What is your availability for your DC? it seems you’re being light in the details and perhaps there’s a reason why.

by qaq 7y ago

Our AWS monthly spend is deep 7 figures over the last 10 years our colo projects had better uptime than AWS US East. You keep living in the marketing bubble for AWS.

tekknik 7y ago

I would love to see some data here. What service outages? What’s your infrastructure like? What’s your DCs uptime?

AmericanChopper 7y ago
There’s a few confounding factors to address before you get to the believability of the claims (which are remarkably dubious). For starters they’ve only spoken about the AWS region which is least reliable by design (as it is the first to receive new features), and they’re talking about a 10 year time span (AWS in 2010 was much less reliable than it is today). It’s also not really clear what they’re talking about when they say AWS. If it’s just the core features you’d need to forklift an on-prem service into the cloud, then the claims are especially frivolous, but the SLA difference between EC2 and AWS Ground Station is more than an order of magnitude. Even if their claims are true (which I certainly don’t believe they are), you’d be more likely to get better uptime than EC2 with a small on-prem setup through dumb luck rather than through deliberate planning. Something still has to go wrong for you to have an outage, and you’re more likely to get an incredible lucky streak than you are to outperform their entire AWS infrastructure capability with a few people and half a rack of servers.
- qaq 7y ago
  Are you from AWS marketing :) ? AWS SLA is meaningless as there are no meaningful penalties.
qaq 7y ago
AWS outages you can google details 2011 April 21 Outage 2011 August 8 Outage 2012 June 29 Service disruption 2012 October 22 Outage 2012 December 24 Outage 2013 September 13 Outage 2014 November 26 Service disruption 2015 September 20 Outage 2016 June 5 Outage 2017 February 28 Outage 2018 March 2 Service degradation 2018 May 31 Outage
- tekknik 7y ago
  There’s a terrible amount more information you’re missing here. What services were you using that went down? (not what services went down, how were you affected) What is your availability for your DC? it seems you’re being light in the details and perhaps there’s a reason why.