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The devil is always in the details. What does “denial of X” even mean? Can you dispute certain facts, like numbers and dates? Who gets to decide the ultimate tr

The devil is always in the details. What does “denial of X” even mean? Can you dispute certain facts, like numbers and dates? Who gets to decide the ultimate truth? It takes a long time for the details of history to settle. For example, nobody knew most dinosaurs had feathers until the last decade.

throwaway2048 6y ago
Truth exists, sorry for those who like to pretend it dosen't.
- 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 6y ago
  So would you support banning everyone on YouTube who went against WHO’s tweet[1] saying there’s no evidence of human to human transmission? That was only in January. https://nypost.com/2020/03/20/who-haunted-by-old-tweet-saying-china-found-no-human-transmission-of-coronavirus/ https://nypost.com/2020/03/20/who-haunted-by-old-tweet-sayin...
  - immutate 6y ago
    First of all, this is about “YouTube banning 'medically unsubstantiated' content.” as well as content that “would go against World Health Organization recommendations,” which (if those guidelines are followed) doesn’t mean banning of people or discourse, but rather disinformation. Secondly, the WHO tweeted that, but had actually already acknowledged human-to-human transmission multiple times[1][2] in the days before the tweet, so no, I wouldn’t support banning discussion around a tweet. 1. https://www.who.int/csr/don/05-january-2020-pneumonia-of-unkown-cause-china/en/ https://www.who.int/csr/don/05-january-2020-pneumonia-of-unk... 2. https://www.who.int/china/news/detail/09-01-2020-who-statement-regarding-cluster-of-pneumonia-cases-in-wuhan-china https://www.who.int/china/news/detail/09-01-2020-who-stateme...
    - dependenttypes 6y ago
      Content that goes "against World Health Organization recommendations" is not necessarily misinformation though.
      - immutate 6y ago
        I agree. That being said, I think getting more definition and transparency around all this on YouTube/Google's part is going to be really important, though I don't expect it, sadly. There's a fair amount of flimflam being pushed on YouTube right now--everything from literally ingesting chlorine dioxide, to other "holistic" cures that _appear_ to be benign.
  - La1n 6y ago
    >saying there’s no evidence of human to human transmission Saying there is preliminary research that gives no clear evidence of it. Stop twisting the words
immutate 6y ago
Truth and fact are two different things.

throwaway2048 6y ago

Truth exists, sorry for those who like to pretend it dosen't.

3fe9a03ccd14ca5 6y ago
So would you support banning everyone on YouTube who went against WHO’s tweet[1] saying there’s no evidence of human to human transmission? That was only in January. https://nypost.com/2020/03/20/who-haunted-by-old-tweet-saying-china-found-no-human-transmission-of-coronavirus/ https://nypost.com/2020/03/20/who-haunted-by-old-tweet-sayin...
- immutate 6y ago
  First of all, this is about “YouTube banning 'medically unsubstantiated' content.” as well as content that “would go against World Health Organization recommendations,” which (if those guidelines are followed) doesn’t mean banning of people or discourse, but rather disinformation. Secondly, the WHO tweeted that, but had actually already acknowledged human-to-human transmission multiple times[1][2] in the days before the tweet, so no, I wouldn’t support banning discussion around a tweet. 1. https://www.who.int/csr/don/05-january-2020-pneumonia-of-unkown-cause-china/en/ https://www.who.int/csr/don/05-january-2020-pneumonia-of-unk... 2. https://www.who.int/china/news/detail/09-01-2020-who-statement-regarding-cluster-of-pneumonia-cases-in-wuhan-china https://www.who.int/china/news/detail/09-01-2020-who-stateme...
  - dependenttypes 6y ago
    Content that goes "against World Health Organization recommendations" is not necessarily misinformation though.
    - immutate 6y ago
      I agree. That being said, I think getting more definition and transparency around all this on YouTube/Google's part is going to be really important, though I don't expect it, sadly. There's a fair amount of flimflam being pushed on YouTube right now--everything from literally ingesting chlorine dioxide, to other "holistic" cures that _appear_ to be benign.
- La1n 6y ago
  >saying there’s no evidence of human to human transmission Saying there is preliminary research that gives no clear evidence of it. Stop twisting the words

immutate 6y ago

Truth and fact are two different things.