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In the 15 inch they undervalued the processor and got better thermals. In the 16 Inch they have different fan curves and larger thermal intakes and fans. I man

In the 15 inch they undervalued the processor and got better thermals. In the 16 Inch they have different fan curves and larger thermal intakes and fans. I manually disable Intel Turbo boost now though. And for some reason when I start up my laptop it can reach around 90 degrees C if I have a bunch of things open (I guess it turbos when it is restoring previous apps open) but that makes sense though.

onepointsixC 7y ago
How did you disable Turbo? I regularly hit 90 when I start running unit tests or compile xcode. I've gotten into a habit of preemptively setting the fans to max before doing anything like that now.
- fwip 7y ago
  I use https://www.rugarciap.com/turbo-boost-switcher-for-os-x/ https://www.rugarciap.com/turbo-boost-switcher-for-os-x/ to disable Turbo Boost - it requires some weird permissions, but seems to work alright.
  - sulam 7y ago
    "it requires some weird permissions" -- https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/04/when-in-doubt-hang-up-look-up-call-back/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/04/when-in-doubt-hang-up-lo... Corollary: when in doubt, don't.
    - zitterbewegung 7y ago
      If you want to interact with the cpu directly it needs to be a ktext which is part of the kernel. This ability will be removed in 10.16
- ThePhysicist 7y ago
  Intel Extreme Tuning Utility lets you tweak almost any parameter but it only works on Windows, if you have dual boot you can use it though (I think) as it persists settings to the firmware/BIOS. For MacOS there’s e.g. “Volta” I think which can help.
- tomcooks 7y ago
  That's what the TURBO button on the case is for, duh /s
  - renewiltord 7y ago
    I felt so cheated when I discovered that the Turbo button was actually a way to slow things down when you turn off turbo. I spent so long as a child "running the computer responsibly so it doesn't overheat"! I also recall the patches people had for things like Jazz Jackrabbit that ran a busy-loop some number of times in hot code because timing was execution-dependent in games like that. Faster CPUs made the game unplayable!
    - sizzle 7y ago
      I absolutely loved playing Jazz Jackrabbit, wasn't expecting to see a reference to it, thanks for the nostalgia :)

onepointsixC 7y ago

How did you disable Turbo? I regularly hit 90 when I start running unit tests or compile xcode. I've gotten into a habit of preemptively setting the fans to max before doing anything like that now.

fwip 7y ago
I use https://www.rugarciap.com/turbo-boost-switcher-for-os-x/ https://www.rugarciap.com/turbo-boost-switcher-for-os-x/ to disable Turbo Boost - it requires some weird permissions, but seems to work alright.
- sulam 7y ago
  "it requires some weird permissions" -- https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/04/when-in-doubt-hang-up-look-up-call-back/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/04/when-in-doubt-hang-up-lo... Corollary: when in doubt, don't.
  - zitterbewegung 7y ago
    If you want to interact with the cpu directly it needs to be a ktext which is part of the kernel. This ability will be removed in 10.16
ThePhysicist 7y ago
Intel Extreme Tuning Utility lets you tweak almost any parameter but it only works on Windows, if you have dual boot you can use it though (I think) as it persists settings to the firmware/BIOS. For MacOS there’s e.g. “Volta” I think which can help.
tomcooks 7y ago
That's what the TURBO button on the case is for, duh /s
- renewiltord 7y ago
  I felt so cheated when I discovered that the Turbo button was actually a way to slow things down when you turn off turbo. I spent so long as a child "running the computer responsibly so it doesn't overheat"! I also recall the patches people had for things like Jazz Jackrabbit that ran a busy-loop some number of times in hot code because timing was execution-dependent in games like that. Faster CPUs made the game unplayable!
  - sizzle 7y ago
    I absolutely loved playing Jazz Jackrabbit, wasn't expecting to see a reference to it, thanks for the nostalgia :)