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We'll see. Yahoo grew revenue too.

by ethbro 6y ago

downvoteme1 6y ago
All companies from Sears to Yahoo to Favebook have peaks, troughs and then eventually fade out. Even if Facebook fades outs on the next 5-50 years, it would have done better than millions of other companies. Look at it this way - what started as an experiment in a dorm room turning into this big is the dream of every startup. Every year thousands of companies apply to YC hoping to be 1/100 to 1/1000 as successful as FAANG’s
- ethbro 6y ago
  Nobody contests that. The negative outlook instead seems to be that since 2010, Facebook (the product, not the engineering team) has delivered little value to society. And at this point, seems to have ossified into a form that lacks the agility and will to make major shifts. Their current emphasis on purchasing other companies for their product pipelines, to drive business to their advertising, seems more akin to pharma majors or IBM than anything in the startup world.
  - tln 6y ago
    Facebook delivers value every day to billions of daily active users -- the social updates. The value varies by person but presumably it's positive value for all DAU or they would cease to be DAU. Perhaps Facebook hasn't increased value delivered for each user for each day that much. Or has even decreased it. But the baseline is definitely "value to society" IMO Did you mean Facebook has delivered little marginal value?
    - ethbro 6y ago
      I meant what I said. > since 2010, Facebook (the product, not the engineering team) has delivered little value to society That requires a different rebuttal than 'to a user.' If we rewound to ~2010, froze Facebook at its then-current feature set, and had Instagram (2012), WhatsApp (2014), Oculus (2014), and the myriad of other aquhires still in existence as independent companies, society would be a better place.
      - tln 6y ago
        > If we rewound to ~2010, froze Facebook at its then-current feature set, and had Instagram (2012), WhatsApp (2014), Oculus (2014), and the myriad of other aquhires still in existence as independent companies, society would be a better place Sure, I can see that. And if Facebook the product went away, society would IMO be in a worse place (until it's replaced :), because Facebook the product is delivering value every day

We'll see. Yahoo grew revenue too.

by ethbro 6y ago

We'll see. Yahoo grew revenue too.

All companies from Sears to Yahoo to Favebook have peaks, troughs and then eventually fade out. Even if Facebook fades outs on the next 5-50 years, it would have done better than millions of other companies. Look at it this way - what started as an experiment in a dorm room turning into this big is the dream of every startup. Every year thousands of companies apply to YC hoping to be 1/100 to 1/1000 as successful as FAANG’s

ethbro 6y ago
Nobody contests that. The negative outlook instead seems to be that since 2010, Facebook (the product, not the engineering team) has delivered little value to society. And at this point, seems to have ossified into a form that lacks the agility and will to make major shifts. Their current emphasis on purchasing other companies for their product pipelines, to drive business to their advertising, seems more akin to pharma majors or IBM than anything in the startup world.
- tln 6y ago
  Facebook delivers value every day to billions of daily active users -- the social updates. The value varies by person but presumably it's positive value for all DAU or they would cease to be DAU. Perhaps Facebook hasn't increased value delivered for each user for each day that much. Or has even decreased it. But the baseline is definitely "value to society" IMO Did you mean Facebook has delivered little marginal value?
  - ethbro 6y ago
    I meant what I said. > since 2010, Facebook (the product, not the engineering team) has delivered little value to society That requires a different rebuttal than 'to a user.' If we rewound to ~2010, froze Facebook at its then-current feature set, and had Instagram (2012), WhatsApp (2014), Oculus (2014), and the myriad of other aquhires still in existence as independent companies, society would be a better place.
    - tln 6y ago
      > If we rewound to ~2010, froze Facebook at its then-current feature set, and had Instagram (2012), WhatsApp (2014), Oculus (2014), and the myriad of other aquhires still in existence as independent companies, society would be a better place Sure, I can see that. And if Facebook the product went away, society would IMO be in a worse place (until it's replaced :), because Facebook the product is delivering value every day