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This comment is based on a misreading of the very testimony you're referencing. As quoted in this CNBC article. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/16/amazon-tells-ho

This comment is based on a misreading of the very testimony you're referencing. As quoted in this CNBC article. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/16/amazon-tells-house-it-doesnt-favor-own-brands-in-antitrust-hearing.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/16/amazon-tells-house-it-doesnt... "Nate Sutton, associate general counsel at Amazon, told lawmakers the company doesn’t tap data from individual third-party merchants to determine what new products to create." Of course they don't use data from individuals, they use all of the data, in aggregate, from everyone including themselves.

LoSboccacc 6y ago
and they don't even have to use merchant sales data to determine what product to go after, just search click troughs are enough for that.
thoraway1010 6y ago
Amazon has promised individual sellers it would not use the data for their products to market against them (not individual buyers). Despite the ludicrous lengths Amazon goes here to say there were multiple sellers and so this data was aggregate, we all understand (and amazon did too) that if you generate statistics such as median sale price per month / day etc where 99.95% of the data comes from one seller, you have the data from that seller.
- TimSchumann 6y ago
  > Amazon has promised individual sellers it would not use the data for their products to market against them (not individual buyers). Again, there's that word. Individual. They get off on a technicality with that comment to congress. The second you have even 0.05% (Your example, not mine.) of any category occupied by a second reseller, you're no longer targeting individuals -- you're entering a 'product vertical'. Amazon does exactly what you're claiming they do not.
  - malcolmgreaves 6y ago
    If they aggregate data from individuals, they're using the individual's data. They didn't get off on a technicality, they're simply lying.

LoSboccacc 6y ago

and they don't even have to use merchant sales data to determine what product to go after, just search click troughs are enough for that.

thoraway1010 6y ago

Amazon has promised individual sellers it would not use the data for their products to market against them (not individual buyers). Despite the ludicrous lengths Amazon goes here to say there were multiple sellers and so this data was aggregate, we all understand (and amazon did too) that if you generate statistics such as median sale price per month / day etc where 99.95% of the data comes from one seller, you have the data from that seller.

TimSchumann 6y ago
> Amazon has promised individual sellers it would not use the data for their products to market against them (not individual buyers). Again, there's that word. Individual. They get off on a technicality with that comment to congress. The second you have even 0.05% (Your example, not mine.) of any category occupied by a second reseller, you're no longer targeting individuals -- you're entering a 'product vertical'. Amazon does exactly what you're claiming they do not.
- malcolmgreaves 6y ago
  If they aggregate data from individuals, they're using the individual's data. They didn't get off on a technicality, they're simply lying.