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Questions. (1) What Lubuntu's stance on snap? (2) Is Lubuntu currently less focused on older hardware than it used to be?

by cies 7y ago

zamadatix 7y ago
It's been more focused on being lightweight than targeting "old hardware" directly for a while now: "The project’s goal is to provide a lightweight yet functional Linux distribution based on a rock-solid Ubuntu base.". Snap has been included by default since 18.10 which was also when they dropped 32 bit x86 builds.
- cies 7y ago
  Because snaps are certainly not lightweight.
  - zamadatix 7y ago
    Supporting things isn't exclusive with aiming to be "lightweight but functional". You're still free to not use snaps.
    - cies 7y ago
      Sure. But will some common used apps like browsers, office suites, IDEs be shipped as snaps?
pojntfx 7y ago
Please, Canonical, just for once use the default and stick with Flatpak like everyone else. We don't need another Mir, Upstart, Unity, ...
- Koshkin 7y ago
  Why not even Docker, then?
  - cies 7y ago
    Different usecase.
    - Koshkin 7y ago
      But isn't deploying applications one of its use cases?
      - cies 7y ago
        But by wieldly different users (devs&ops vs everyone if it's up to Ubuntu), and in different kinds of computers (servers vs desktops).
    - yjftsjthsd-h 7y ago
      How about subuser, then?
- dzonga 7y ago
  I think flatpak is coming with 20.04 given that's going to be in Pop OS 20.04 which is based on Ubuntu
- tannhaeuser 7y ago
  I'm not a fan of containerization of base OS apps at all (planning on using it for for Chrome, Skype, Slack, and other Electron-based cross-platform apps only) but I'm pretty sure Ubuntu is mainstream enough at this point that Canonical pretty much dictates the shape of the Linux desktop for third-party apps while "everyone else" includes "just" RH (who still do/finance a large part of kernel development, of course). But maybe I'm overlooking something, so if somebody with a distro maintainance or third party appdev background could share why settling on snaps causes trouble or undue extra work or is less-than-optimal I'd appreciate it.
- acqq 7y ago
  > stick with Flatpak like everyone else Can you please write who "everyone else" is?
  - geodel 7y ago
    "Everyone Else" sounds like some Ubuntu release :-)
aritmo 7y ago
You can install snapd on Ubuntu and then install the snap package manager which is a snap. There is nothing that forbids Lubuntu to use snaps.
- cies 7y ago
  I'm more interested in not using snap. How hard would that be? (as it seems to be installed by default)

Questions. (1) What Lubuntu's stance on snap? (2) Is Lubuntu currently less focused on older hardware than it used to be?

by cies 7y ago

Questions. (1) What Lubuntu's stance on snap? (2) Is Lubuntu currently less focused on older hardware than it used to be?

zamadatix 7y ago

It's been more focused on being lightweight than targeting "old hardware" directly for a while now: "The project’s goal is to provide a lightweight yet functional Linux distribution based on a rock-solid Ubuntu base.". Snap has been included by default since 18.10 which was also when they dropped 32 bit x86 builds.

cies 7y ago
Because snaps are certainly not lightweight.
- zamadatix 7y ago
  Supporting things isn't exclusive with aiming to be "lightweight but functional". You're still free to not use snaps.
  - cies 7y ago
    Sure. But will some common used apps like browsers, office suites, IDEs be shipped as snaps?

pojntfx 7y ago

Please, Canonical, just for once use the default and stick with Flatpak like everyone else. We don't need another Mir, Upstart, Unity, ...

Koshkin 7y ago
Why not even Docker, then?
- cies 7y ago
  Different usecase.
  - Koshkin 7y ago
    But isn't deploying applications one of its use cases?
    - cies 7y ago
      But by wieldly different users (devs&ops vs everyone if it's up to Ubuntu), and in different kinds of computers (servers vs desktops).
  - yjftsjthsd-h 7y ago
    How about subuser, then?
dzonga 7y ago
I think flatpak is coming with 20.04 given that's going to be in Pop OS 20.04 which is based on Ubuntu
tannhaeuser 7y ago
I'm not a fan of containerization of base OS apps at all (planning on using it for for Chrome, Skype, Slack, and other Electron-based cross-platform apps only) but I'm pretty sure Ubuntu is mainstream enough at this point that Canonical pretty much dictates the shape of the Linux desktop for third-party apps while "everyone else" includes "just" RH (who still do/finance a large part of kernel development, of course). But maybe I'm overlooking something, so if somebody with a distro maintainance or third party appdev background could share why settling on snaps causes trouble or undue extra work or is less-than-optimal I'd appreciate it.
acqq 7y ago
> stick with Flatpak like everyone else Can you please write who "everyone else" is?
- geodel 7y ago
  "Everyone Else" sounds like some Ubuntu release :-)

aritmo 7y ago

You can install snapd on Ubuntu and then install the snap package manager which is a snap. There is nothing that forbids Lubuntu to use snaps.

cies 7y ago
I'm more interested in not using snap. How hard would that be? (as it seems to be installed by default)