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There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. If you filter the paid speech then it follows you should also filter out the actual art, cinema, theater, etc. it pa

There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. If you filter the paid speech then it follows you should also filter out the actual art, cinema, theater, etc. it paid for. Now you are left with what?

javajosh 7y ago
I have to be honest, I'm not sure how to respond. The mean part of me wants to call you out for being stupid, the angry part for using a strawman, the compassionate part wants to dig in and fix your misunderstanding, the wise part wants to smile, shake my head, and ignore it. So, as usual, I go with the meta part of me and just describe the other parts and I'll let you pick.
- dsl 7y ago
  You made absolutely no counter argument, and used way too many words to express your core point: "I'm a jerk."
  - dang 7y ago
    Whoa, even when a comment is bad, please don't respond with a worse one. That just takes the thread further in the wrong direction. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. I don't read the GP comment as being a jerk so much as trying to at least avoid the most unproductive kinds of argument. Maybe it was a doomed experiment.
    - javajosh 7y ago
      Yes, it was something of an experiment. I knew that ignoring it was best but I had a lot of other reactions, and I'd never seen a comment like that before, so I gave it a shot. Live and learn!
- dang 7y ago
  The problem with this is that you've ruled out the wise part by posting it.
jazzyjackson 7y ago
People actually cook lunch for each other all the time without making a sales pitch, this idea that nothing happens if Google isn't cutting checks is an extremely dim view of humanity.
- Nasrudith 7y ago
  It isn't cynical but one which understands the value of specialization and ability to provide. If people cannot be supported doing X then doing better at it is limited. Said paid approach also has implicit patronage as wealth reserves the priveledge to devote a large ammount of resources including time and not get paid for it while monopolizing the prestiege and related benefits of it.
- lonelappde 7y ago
  How do you cook lunch over the Internet? Why are you hanging out on ad supported website right now?
  - jazzyjackson 7y ago
    Are you getting compensated for the content you produce here on hackernews?

There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. If you filter the paid speech then it follows you should also filter out the actual art, cinema, theater, etc. it paid for. Now you are left with what?

javajosh 7y ago

I have to be honest, I'm not sure how to respond. The mean part of me wants to call you out for being stupid, the angry part for using a strawman, the compassionate part wants to dig in and fix your misunderstanding, the wise part wants to smile, shake my head, and ignore it. So, as usual, I go with the meta part of me and just describe the other parts and I'll let you pick.

dsl 7y ago
You made absolutely no counter argument, and used way too many words to express your core point: "I'm a jerk."
- dang 7y ago
  Whoa, even when a comment is bad, please don't respond with a worse one. That just takes the thread further in the wrong direction. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. I don't read the GP comment as being a jerk so much as trying to at least avoid the most unproductive kinds of argument. Maybe it was a doomed experiment.
  - javajosh 7y ago
    Yes, it was something of an experiment. I knew that ignoring it was best but I had a lot of other reactions, and I'd never seen a comment like that before, so I gave it a shot. Live and learn!
dang 7y ago
The problem with this is that you've ruled out the wise part by posting it.

jazzyjackson 7y ago

People actually cook lunch for each other all the time without making a sales pitch, this idea that nothing happens if Google isn't cutting checks is an extremely dim view of humanity.

Nasrudith 7y ago
It isn't cynical but one which understands the value of specialization and ability to provide. If people cannot be supported doing X then doing better at it is limited. Said paid approach also has implicit patronage as wealth reserves the priveledge to devote a large ammount of resources including time and not get paid for it while monopolizing the prestiege and related benefits of it.
lonelappde 7y ago
How do you cook lunch over the Internet? Why are you hanging out on ad supported website right now?
- jazzyjackson 7y ago
  Are you getting compensated for the content you produce here on hackernews?