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While I don't know much about phones and suppose you are correct there, I have been disappointed with the hardware that they pushed to their macs the last 5 or

While I don't know much about phones and suppose you are correct there, I have been disappointed with the hardware that they pushed to their macs the last 5 or so years. For instance, why did they ship newer macs without upgrading to the newest Intel chips? I guess you can solve anything if you do it yourself, but that was perplexing for me that they would do that. I am not an expert on this, but this happened some time between 2016–2018. Edit: I stuck with my upgraded 2013 model and even today it's fast and good for the job. Even my 2009 mac is still running. So I am not saying they can't pull it off, I am just wondering whether they give enough attention to their non-iPhone products.

koheripbal 6y ago
"newest" might be unfair. I imagine there's a lot of product life-cycle / driver testing to ensure high quality. Whereas other PC shops typically will just throw PCs together and assume they'll fix issues found in patches. That's not going to fly for "just works" Apple product image - and why it's positioned and priced as a "luxury" product.
mikorym 6y ago
Since I was downvoted, here are some discussions on what happened cerca 2016–2018: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12816474 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12816474 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16130872 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16130872 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13364583 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13364583 Don't bother with the links, the comments are more informative. In some of the comments people explain why it's Intel's fault and not Apple, in some comments people explain processor speeds. A lot of it is about the keyboard that they changed, but that is not related to this. My point was more that I think Apple should put the amount of effort into their laptops that they did in 2009, whether or not they do is subjective until we see their new processors.

koheripbal 6y ago

"newest" might be unfair. I imagine there's a lot of product life-cycle / driver testing to ensure high quality. Whereas other PC shops typically will just throw PCs together and assume they'll fix issues found in patches. That's not going to fly for "just works" Apple product image - and why it's positioned and priced as a "luxury" product.

mikorym 6y ago

Since I was downvoted, here are some discussions on what happened cerca 2016–2018: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12816474 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12816474 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16130872 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16130872 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13364583 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13364583 Don't bother with the links, the comments are more informative. In some of the comments people explain why it's Intel's fault and not Apple, in some comments people explain processor speeds. A lot of it is about the keyboard that they changed, but that is not related to this. My point was more that I think Apple should put the amount of effort into their laptops that they did in 2009, whether or not they do is subjective until we see their new processors.