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So according to 7zip and unixbench benchmarks RPI 4 with out of order CPU on 1,5GHz is on par with Odroid C4 with in order CPU on 2GHz. And the price you'll pay

So according to 7zip and unixbench benchmarks RPI 4 with out of order CPU on 1,5GHz is on par with Odroid C4 with in order CPU on 2GHz. And the price you'll pay to get one will be closer to 70$ in EU including shipment costs or reseller fees.

tssva 7y ago
And a RPI 4 can be reliably overclocked to 2GHz.
DeathArrow 7y ago
For $30 I can get an used H61 board, i3-2100 and 4GB DDR3 RAM. That is going to be much faster than both Raspberry and Odroid. The ARM boards make sense only if you have power and size restrictions.
- the1pato 7y ago
  Where?
  - DeathArrow 7y ago
    On local classified ads website.
- Koshkin 7y ago
  These boards have a different form factor.
- syntheticnature 7y ago
  Or if you need known-new boards, especially in quantity, though RPi has its own availability limitations for commercial use IIRC. Power and Size restriction can be a bigger deal than you've made it sound, though. I can fit ten Pis in a carry-on without concern if needed, and I have needed to do so in the past. For noise reduction, fanless is better than muffling a fan, though one does need to make sure the heat sink is big enough.
- snvzz 7y ago
  >For $30 I can get an used H61 board, i3-2100 and 4GB DDR3 RAM. That is going to be much faster than both Raspberry and Odroid. This is great. If you absolutely do not care about power efficiency, physical size, noise or reliability. They aren't even comparable. And even if you claim to care about raw performance, I'd like to see how well that i3 does in a direct benchmark. It might not turn out the way you think it is.
snvzz 7y ago
There's a difference in power consumption. The C4 is 720mA loaded. The RPI4 is an oven. C4 comes with a large heatsink. Rpi4 doesn't despite the much higher power consumption, forcing you to add one. My conclusion: The RPI4 is an unreliable, poorly engineered toy (like every other RPI in the past). The C4 is rugged and a good choice to base projects on, like every Odroid has been to date.
- hajile 7y ago
  Odroid units are not really plug & play. Software matters and the raspberry pi ecosystem is just better. I want to say the N2 is hands-down better than the pi, but if you deviate even a little (eg, try to add a third-party touchscreen that works perfectly fine on the pi), you'll quickly find things not working and no support from anyone.
  - snvzz 7y ago
    >Software matters and the raspberry pi ecosystem is just better. My experience is the opposite. The raspberry pi ecosystem is low quality and full of quirks and annoyances. All the alternatives I have used (mostly sunxi-based) have been a much smoother experience.
adrian_b 7y ago
In Europe RPI 4 with 4 GB is EUR 60, so even with lower shipping fees the price would be about the same. In some benchmarks RPI 4 is slightly faster, in others it is slower. So neither price nor performance favor strongly one over the other. Depending on the application, the included WiFi of RPI 4 may be more useful, or the included 4-port USB 3 hub of ODROID-C4 may be more useful. For myself, the 4-port hub is more useful. For some people, including myself, much more important is the fact that the RPI 4 CPU implements an obsolete instruction set, unlike the ODROID-C4 CPU, which implements the better ARMv8.2-A instruction set. There is only one other cheap computer with ARMv8.2-A: Khadas VIM3L (a little more expensive, less DRAM, WiFi included, another variant of the same processor, no USB hub but PCI-E on an expansion connector).

tssva 7y ago

And a RPI 4 can be reliably overclocked to 2GHz.

DeathArrow 7y ago

For $30 I can get an used H61 board, i3-2100 and 4GB DDR3 RAM. That is going to be much faster than both Raspberry and Odroid. The ARM boards make sense only if you have power and size restrictions.

the1pato 7y ago
Where?
- DeathArrow 7y ago
  On local classified ads website.
Koshkin 7y ago
These boards have a different form factor.
syntheticnature 7y ago
Or if you need known-new boards, especially in quantity, though RPi has its own availability limitations for commercial use IIRC. Power and Size restriction can be a bigger deal than you've made it sound, though. I can fit ten Pis in a carry-on without concern if needed, and I have needed to do so in the past. For noise reduction, fanless is better than muffling a fan, though one does need to make sure the heat sink is big enough.
snvzz 7y ago
>For $30 I can get an used H61 board, i3-2100 and 4GB DDR3 RAM. That is going to be much faster than both Raspberry and Odroid. This is great. If you absolutely do not care about power efficiency, physical size, noise or reliability. They aren't even comparable. And even if you claim to care about raw performance, I'd like to see how well that i3 does in a direct benchmark. It might not turn out the way you think it is.

snvzz 7y ago

There's a difference in power consumption. The C4 is 720mA loaded. The RPI4 is an oven. C4 comes with a large heatsink. Rpi4 doesn't despite the much higher power consumption, forcing you to add one. My conclusion: The RPI4 is an unreliable, poorly engineered toy (like every other RPI in the past). The C4 is rugged and a good choice to base projects on, like every Odroid has been to date.

hajile 7y ago
Odroid units are not really plug & play. Software matters and the raspberry pi ecosystem is just better. I want to say the N2 is hands-down better than the pi, but if you deviate even a little (eg, try to add a third-party touchscreen that works perfectly fine on the pi), you'll quickly find things not working and no support from anyone.
- snvzz 7y ago
  >Software matters and the raspberry pi ecosystem is just better. My experience is the opposite. The raspberry pi ecosystem is low quality and full of quirks and annoyances. All the alternatives I have used (mostly sunxi-based) have been a much smoother experience.

adrian_b 7y ago

In Europe RPI 4 with 4 GB is EUR 60, so even with lower shipping fees the price would be about the same. In some benchmarks RPI 4 is slightly faster, in others it is slower. So neither price nor performance favor strongly one over the other. Depending on the application, the included WiFi of RPI 4 may be more useful, or the included 4-port USB 3 hub of ODROID-C4 may be more useful. For myself, the 4-port hub is more useful. For some people, including myself, much more important is the fact that the RPI 4 CPU implements an obsolete instruction set, unlike the ODROID-C4 CPU, which implements the better ARMv8.2-A instruction set. There is only one other cheap computer with ARMv8.2-A: Khadas VIM3L (a little more expensive, less DRAM, WiFi included, another variant of the same processor, no USB hub but PCI-E on an expansion connector).