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There's no disputing preferences. I still feel weird about face ID, and would rather have buttons.

pb7 7y ago
Sure, nothing is stopping you from preferring inferior options. The button is objectively worse. It is more complicated mechanically, it is slower for all of its functions, and it wastes almost an inch of screen space to nothing. The redeeming aspect of it is Touch ID if the pros outweigh the cons for your preferred use case vs. Face ID.
- lukifer 7y ago
  "Objectively" is not the right word here. There's a reason I used the word taste, rather than looking at specs or technology or performance: it might be that a $0.99 McDonald's hamburger is "objectively" inferior to a $20 organic grass-fed medium-rare burger from a fancy restaurant; but if I prefer the McDonald's one, it's useless to tell me that my tastes are wrong. Maybe I like the ritual of thumb-to-unlock, since it feels more under my control. Maybe there's instances in which I want to look at the phone without unlocking the device. Maybe I hate the stupid notch, and I want my screen to be a rectangle and not a rounded rectangle. Just because you don't value these things doesn't make your preference "objectively" correct. > wastes almost an inch of screen space to nothing It's a feature, not a bug: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_space (I also have a huge pet peeve with the bezels shrinking on recent iPads. However good the fancy touch-canceling algorithms get, they'll never compete with "I'm not touching the screen at all, so I'm 1000% sure this grip won't invoke an action.")
strogonoff 7y ago
For a good chunk of the day I can’t unlock my iPhone with Face ID while wearing a mask. At night and in the morning I can’t unlock it because I’m horizontal, hair obscures part of my face and/or it’s too dark. Punching in the passphrase gets old quick. I read about Apple’s patent on buttonless Touch ID underlying the screen and I’m holding off until next event to get either a phone with that technology, or SE 2.
- danielscrubs 7y ago
  If it's anything like the Samsung A70 variant of the button then run away. It's utter garbage.

pb7 7y ago

Sure, nothing is stopping you from preferring inferior options. The button is objectively worse. It is more complicated mechanically, it is slower for all of its functions, and it wastes almost an inch of screen space to nothing. The redeeming aspect of it is Touch ID if the pros outweigh the cons for your preferred use case vs. Face ID.

lukifer 7y ago
"Objectively" is not the right word here. There's a reason I used the word taste, rather than looking at specs or technology or performance: it might be that a $0.99 McDonald's hamburger is "objectively" inferior to a $20 organic grass-fed medium-rare burger from a fancy restaurant; but if I prefer the McDonald's one, it's useless to tell me that my tastes are wrong. Maybe I like the ritual of thumb-to-unlock, since it feels more under my control. Maybe there's instances in which I want to look at the phone without unlocking the device. Maybe I hate the stupid notch, and I want my screen to be a rectangle and not a rounded rectangle. Just because you don't value these things doesn't make your preference "objectively" correct. > wastes almost an inch of screen space to nothing It's a feature, not a bug: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_space (I also have a huge pet peeve with the bezels shrinking on recent iPads. However good the fancy touch-canceling algorithms get, they'll never compete with "I'm not touching the screen at all, so I'm 1000% sure this grip won't invoke an action.")

strogonoff 7y ago

For a good chunk of the day I can’t unlock my iPhone with Face ID while wearing a mask. At night and in the morning I can’t unlock it because I’m horizontal, hair obscures part of my face and/or it’s too dark. Punching in the passphrase gets old quick. I read about Apple’s patent on buttonless Touch ID underlying the screen and I’m holding off until next event to get either a phone with that technology, or SE 2.

danielscrubs 7y ago
If it's anything like the Samsung A70 variant of the button then run away. It's utter garbage.