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Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

93 points by alexeiz 6y ago

lvturner 6y ago
Looks pretty, but being a bit out of the loop I'd really appreciate a quick "What's Deepin Desktop Environment?" and why I would want it on the landing page!
- fludlight 6y ago
  It's a pretty debian-based distro. It's made by a company in Wuhan so presumably it has great Chinese character integration, and, by extension, support for other alphabets besides en. https://www.deepin.org/en/2020/04/15/deepin-20-beta/ https://www.deepin.org/en/2020/04/15/deepin-20-beta/
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- RMPR 6y ago
  Deepin Desktop environment is the DE developed for the distro named .... Deepin, by a Chinese company, it's actually a fork of GNOME 3 focused on "beauty"
solarengineer 6y ago
I do wonder if it’s legally acceptable to use the name “Ubuntu” as part of a different commercial product’s name - especially after acknowledging on the front page that the name “Ubuntu” has been trademarked by Canonical. Certainly, section 4 of Canonical’s Intellectual Property Rights Policy [0] permits such use only if Canonical were to provide written permission to do so. I presume they want to use the name until a take down notice arrives from Canonical and benefit from the brand till that time? Give that Deepin are a company, I would expect their legal team to either prevent such misuse or to ensure that the written permission is stated on the front page. [0] https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy Edit: changed “entity “ to “ product”
- resfirestar 6y ago
  Ubuntu Deepin seems to be by an independent developer[1], not the company that created Deepin. [1] https://github.com/arunpyasi https://github.com/arunpyasi, https://ubuntudde.com/ubuntudde-beta-200410-release-note/ https://ubuntudde.com/ubuntudde-beta-200410-release-note/
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anongraddebt 6y ago
Looks quite nice. I switched from ubuntu after getting a 15in macbook last summer, but will keep my eye on the final Deepin release.
taejavu 6y ago
I find it baffling that a website who's sole purpose is to present "the most beautiful desktop environment" would present low resolution, reduced color screenshots to back the claim. examples: https://ubuntudde.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/ubuntudde-launcher.png https://ubuntudde.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/ubuntudde-l... https://ubuntudde.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/ubuntudde-filemanager.png https://ubuntudde.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/ubuntudde-f... There are better screenshots behind the "Digital Assets" nav link, but I wouldn't have found that, or thought to look there for screenshots if I wasn't concerned about replies to this comment proving me wrong.
- whalesalad 6y ago
  Desktop environments on Linux is really the most asinine dick swinging contest I have ever witnessed in my life. Subscribe to /r/unixporn for a single week and you will be absolutely amazed at the shit you will learn.
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  - ssivark 6y ago
    That’s a surprisingly wholesome community! Friendly/welcoming folks, and they take their creativity seriously enough to put work into it and critique it.
  - ullarah 6y ago
    I hardly believe that anybody would use most of those environments on a daily use.
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    - intarga 6y ago
      I’m one of them and we do. Why do you think we wouldn’t? They’re not lacking any capability, and we generally create them because they’re more efficient for our workflows.
gitgud 6y ago
Looks interesting, but couldn't this just sit on top of Ubuntu as a interchangeable desktop environment like KDE, Gnome, Unity etc..? Why fork the entire OS? ...
- RMPR 6y ago
  It's a common practice in the Ubuntu's world though: Kubuntu, Xubuntu, ... now UbuntuDDE.
paxys 6y ago
Looks like a pretty average Gnome theme with very minor changes from the default. What's the point of creating an entire distro flavor?
- whalesalad 6y ago
  You are spot on yet at the same time this is about 99% of Linux. Would love to see us move back towards linux being linux (a kernel) and less of a need to even 'join' a Distro or pick sides if you will. You are really picking a package manager and a philosophy on upstream software ... it is unfortunate you're implicitly or inadvertently being forced to pick about 11,000 other things too.
  - qppo 6y ago
    this is missing an "I use arch btw" Those 11k other things are usually the minimum needed to have a production ready system that doesn't require you as a user to jump through hoops to provision and maintain.
    - neoberg 6y ago
      You are a sissy if you don't pick the other 11k packages by hand. Just go and use mac you fanboy. /s
jay-anderson 6y ago
I've used elementary os [1] in the past. This initially looks similar, but less polished. I hadn't heard of dde [2] before. It'd be nice to explain it on this page or provide a link. [1] https://elementary.io/ https://elementary.io/ [2] https://www.deepin.org/en/dde/ https://www.deepin.org/en/dde/
arpa 6y ago
For the most beautiful DE, it's so... meh. It's a shame. Does anyone here remember Beryl? Now that was mindblowing stuff, still can't wrap my head around the fact it's dead...
- kick 6y ago
  There's still an active Compiz fork, I think; Beryl merged back in, it didn't really die.
- kitotik 6y ago
  Perhaps wayfire[0] can fill the compiz shaped hole. [0] https://wayfire.org/ https://wayfire.org/
  - GGfpc 6y ago
    Wow this is ugly
  - arpa 6y ago
    It actualy seems like it could! Thanks.
- renewiltord 6y ago
  Oh right, I forgot all the cool things I had enabled on Compiz: live zoom, wobbly windows, the burn effect. Transparent windows! Those were great. The cube, of course. The shift switcher. Expose.
taikawatiti 6y ago
Fair warning deepin is made by a Chinese company. I know you are going to say "open source duh" and then I'll say sure like that has always worked.
hakube 6y ago
- Install Arch/Debian - Install Deepin You'll basically have the same thing. Be free from GNU+Linux distro fragmentation
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kstenerud 6y ago
My magicbook came with deepin linux installed, but unfortunately they're based off debian stable, which meant that most of the packages were severely outdated and unusable for me as a dev environment. The deepin desktop environment itself was pretty, but janky. The settings thing (on the right side of the screen) is difficult and unintuitive to navigate, and scrolling was still buggy when I used it in December (it will randomly skip sections or just get stuck when you scroll). The other apps felt similarly unpolished, like they'd put all their energy into the look rather than the boring stability side of things. In a few years it might be a nice DE, but it has a long way to go. I've tried all of the major desktops over the past year in anticipation of 20.04, but I think I'll be moving to KDE once it comes out. It seems to have the most seamless integration of them all, and still allows me to control things. I just hope the performance is good.
- nsomaru 6y ago
  Debian stable (buster currently) is my daily driver. I'm quite happy that I have stable targets of packages to develop against. I'm curious about the type of work you do that Debian packages are "outdated" and do not enable you to continue your work. I've used many different distros but I keep coming back to rock-solid Debian.
  - hiq 6y ago
    I guess front-end development is the obvious one. The Node.js version on Debian Buster is 10.15.2~dfsg-2, while you have 12.16.2 on the official NodeJS website. To be fair, OP mentioned that the official packages were often useless, not the distribution as a whole (you can often install custom packages / binaries, although it's not nice).
    - RMPR 6y ago
      Back in time, it was node 5 while the stable version was 8.
    - adar 6y ago
      AFAIK many (most?) Node devs completely ignore the version that comes with their OS and use something like nvm to manage their Node version(s) anyway.
hpaavola 6y ago
I hate all these "most beatiful Linux desktop" things. They all suck. Let's look at this pic: https://ubuntudde.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/UbuntuDDE-Desktop.png https://ubuntudde.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/UbuntuDDE-D... It showcases the desktop of the "most beautiful desktop environment". Either it does not come with a browser installed, or the browser is not added to that launch bar or they changed the browser icon but not the email client icon. As the email client icon highlights, that icon theming does not make anything more beautiful because a lot of applications do not have an icon which would fit into the theme. Network adapter selection, charging status and other things which most are not constantly interested in are in the middle of the most important UI element. Put those somewhere so that those are not constantly in my way. Power button is also right there in the most important UI element. I don't know how others use their machines, but I'm not constantly pressing the power button of my computer. Put it somewhere where other unimportant things belong. And how does a power button, some number thingy and trash can belong to the same area? Nothing makes sense. Default gnome and KDE are more beautiful and work better. Here's the default Ubuntu desktop https://149366088.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Screenshot-2020-04-11-at-20.07.03.png https://149366088.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/202... Browser icon looks like browser icon. Icons are beautiful as their original designer intended. System settings related things like network, battery and power thingies are moved away from the importan things.
- ittan 6y ago
  Gnome and KDE are indeed more beautiful.
  - brabel 6y ago
    Indeed.. I have been a Ubuntu user for some time, but have recently switched to KDE due to the latest Ubuntu desktop experiments which really put me off. After installing KDE Plasma, which I thought was a single DE, I was surprised to learn that, on the login page, I can actually select different DEs, like Cinnamon, Plasma, Ubuntu, Unity, Wayland... that's really amazing! I have played around with Plasma and Cinnamon, and decided to stick with Cinnamon (after tweaking it with the dark theme, it looks awesome). So happy to have many choices though. I wonder why people still feel the need to come up with more DEs instead of contributing to the plenty of existing ones...
starky 6y ago
Linux is never beautiful IMO. There are so few packages out there that actually have good UI/UX design that you could put whatever DE you want on a distro and it will still be ugly. Whenever I use Linux I pretty much always end up right back at running Openbox because it ends up being one less thing to get in the way.
- eitland 6y ago
  Check out KDE Neon. It is beautiful (unless you are as sensitive to alignment or typeface issues as I am to lagging ;-)
  - sandov 6y ago
    I don't like KDE because I like my UI components to have padding and not look like this: https://news-cdn.softpedia.com/images/news2/kde-plasma-5-16-desktop-environment-will-bring-completely-revamped-notifications-526007-3.jpg https://news-cdn.softpedia.com/images/news2/kde-plasma-5-16-...
  - starky 6y ago
    My argument is that you can choose any desktop environment you want with the most well designed window decorations, but as long as you have most packages built on GTK+ or Qt by people that aren't UI/UX experts, your system is going to be ugly.
cgb223 6y ago
Am I crazy or does this look a lot like KDE?
- _ZeD_ 6y ago
  well, kde can be customize to almost anything, so... sure, maybe this look a lot like "some" KDE
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- RMPR 6y ago
  A Gnome 3 based KDE then
sandGorgon 6y ago
From wikipedia, >The development of deepin is led by China-based Wuhan Deepin Technology Co., Ltd. The company generates revenue through the sale of technical support and other services related to it.[12] The distribution is widely praised for its aesthetics in various reviews, while also has been criticized for having used a statistical tracking service in its App Store, which was removed in July 2018. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepin
- intopieces 6y ago
  Can someone verify their claims as being Actually Bad and not Bad Because China? Genuinely curious.
nnq 6y ago
...can it do multiple DPIs on multiple displays? This is not eye-candy it's minimum s I need to get work done! This is as low as a bar I can imagine but last time I checked from the mainstream Linux DEs, only a version of KDE/Plasma (can't stand KDE, so was a no-go out of the bat) had this.
- zerocrates 6y ago
  Gnome at least has display-differing scaling factors when running in Wayland.
- ggreer 6y ago
  All Wayland desktop environments can do this. I think every popular distro besides Ubuntu ships with Wayland as the default now.
smabie 6y ago
What's the point of creating a new "distro" that just has a different window manager/desktop environment? Like, what kind of person would spend time doing that? Maybe that's a little harsh, but these kinds of projects seem completely pointless. Changing your wm/de doesn't take more than a couple minutes (including the download time). It might actually be harmful, the world doesn't need more distros, derivative or otherwise.
- londons_explore 6y ago
  Ubuntu sort of encouraged distributions which were identical in all ways except the default set of installed packages. Think kububtu, xububtu, etc. I don't think it's a bad thing - non-default packages tend to not get much use, and are hard to brand.
- RMPR 6y ago
  FWIW back in the days where Ubuntu used Unity, I tried to change my DE and fucked up my system, Idk, maybe I wasn't enough skilled to do thag1, but that was what make me switch to Fedora.
- mastrsushi 6y ago
  This is a remix, not a distribution. Nothing more than Ubuntu with a pre-installed desktop environment. Remixes give users the same benefits installing yourself provide. But they do so while keeping the oobe that makes distros like Ubuntu intuitive and competitive. I do agree the Linux distro ecosystem is a scattered mess. And that negative diversity of incompatible package managers and display systems goes against the standardizations that made POSIX dominant to begin with. When I look at Elementary"OS", I see a branding built on the foundation of what could simply be Ubuntu Pantheon Remix. The idea that these hundreds of mini distros is what caused desktop Linux to fail isn't true though. These projects are nothing more than the IT equivalent of your friend's mix tape. Or your girlfriend's slightly modified Martha Stewart recipe she boasts as her own.
DeathArrow 6y ago
>UbuntuDDE is a Remix flavor of Ubuntu system with Deepin Desktop Environment (DDE) . UbuntuDDE is a linux distribution based on Ubuntu with the most beautiful desktop environment. So by imitating macOS look they got "the most beautiful desktop environment". I don't get it. If I want macOS, I would run the real deal, either by buying a Mac or by doing a hackintosh install. Earlier there were Linux distros trying to imitate Windows XP. That was bad, too. I think time wasted and effort would be better spent on inventing something new or refining some ideas striving to do something better, trying to solve problems. I don't get the problem this desktop environment solves. Are they catering to people who love Macs but don't want to use Macs? That's a rather tiny population. Or maybe the problem they tried to solve was Linux having too few desktop environments.
- RMPR 6y ago
  It's a common practice in the Ubuntu's world to create a new distro just to change the DE: Kubuntu (KDE), Xubuntu (Xfce I think) , ... and now UbuntuDDE. It's even encouraged by Ubuntu's maintainers iirc.
Klonoar 6y ago
Linux GUIs have a problem understanding the difference between beauty as a visual attribute and beauty as a functional product. They never have one without the other. No, Elementary and Poppin don't count. I wish they did.
valera_rozuvan 6y ago
https://github.com/linuxdeepin/dde-file-manager/tree/develop2.0 https://github.com/linuxdeepin/dde-file-manager/tree/develop... Looking at the source code of one of the critical pieces of that distro, we can see that it has about 5 active devs (in the past 2 years). To me it looks like a strong project. Will be interesting to see where it is in 5 years. They need more presence on the various Linux news/discussion sites.
oliwarner 6y ago
Can't see any suggestion that this is officially sanctioned or supported by either trademark holder. Canonical defend the use of "Ubuntu". I would expect a name change fairly soon. And using SourceForge in 2020 doesn't fill me with confidence.
tywkeene 6y ago
A few years ago I installed FreeBSD on my main machine, and actually used it for some time (6ish months?). It was really nice that I could actually google things, and usually come to a mailing list or the FreeBSD manual for my version of the OS, and then actually be able to find what I was looking for and have it work (most of the time). It's the opposite with Linux. Yeah, this is just another "hey lets copy osx and pretend we're actually doing something real" project, and more than likely, everything will work fine just like in the standard ubuntu, but it's still just another fragment in the already overcrowded and starting-to-stink-from-all-the-dead-projects ecosystem. I get the freedom to do everything you want, fork this, change that, I get that 100%, but man it would be nice to have Linux be unified.

93 points by alexeiz 6y ago

Looks pretty, but being a bit out of the loop I'd really appreciate a quick "What's Deepin Desktop Environment?" and why I would want it on the landing page!

fludlight 6y ago
It's a pretty debian-based distro. It's made by a company in Wuhan so presumably it has great Chinese character integration, and, by extension, support for other alphabets besides en. https://www.deepin.org/en/2020/04/15/deepin-20-beta/ https://www.deepin.org/en/2020/04/15/deepin-20-beta/
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RMPR 6y ago
Deepin Desktop environment is the DE developed for the distro named .... Deepin, by a Chinese company, it's actually a fork of GNOME 3 focused on "beauty"

solarengineer 6y ago

I do wonder if it’s legally acceptable to use the name “Ubuntu” as part of a different commercial product’s name - especially after acknowledging on the front page that the name “Ubuntu” has been trademarked by Canonical. Certainly, section 4 of Canonical’s Intellectual Property Rights Policy [0] permits such use only if Canonical were to provide written permission to do so. I presume they want to use the name until a take down notice arrives from Canonical and benefit from the brand till that time? Give that Deepin are a company, I would expect their legal team to either prevent such misuse or to ensure that the written permission is stated on the front page. [0] https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy Edit: changed “entity “ to “ product”

resfirestar 6y ago
Ubuntu Deepin seems to be by an independent developer[1], not the company that created Deepin. [1] https://github.com/arunpyasi https://github.com/arunpyasi, https://ubuntudde.com/ubuntudde-beta-200410-release-note/ https://ubuntudde.com/ubuntudde-beta-200410-release-note/
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anongraddebt 6y ago

Looks quite nice. I switched from ubuntu after getting a 15in macbook last summer, but will keep my eye on the final Deepin release.

taejavu 6y ago

I find it baffling that a website who's sole purpose is to present "the most beautiful desktop environment" would present low resolution, reduced color screenshots to back the claim. examples: https://ubuntudde.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/ubuntudde-launcher.png https://ubuntudde.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/ubuntudde-l... https://ubuntudde.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/ubuntudde-filemanager.png https://ubuntudde.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/ubuntudde-f... There are better screenshots behind the "Digital Assets" nav link, but I wouldn't have found that, or thought to look there for screenshots if I wasn't concerned about replies to this comment proving me wrong.

whalesalad 6y ago
Desktop environments on Linux is really the most asinine dick swinging contest I have ever witnessed in my life. Subscribe to /r/unixporn for a single week and you will be absolutely amazed at the shit you will learn.
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- ssivark 6y ago
  That’s a surprisingly wholesome community! Friendly/welcoming folks, and they take their creativity seriously enough to put work into it and critique it.
- ullarah 6y ago
  I hardly believe that anybody would use most of those environments on a daily use.
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  - intarga 6y ago
    I’m one of them and we do. Why do you think we wouldn’t? They’re not lacking any capability, and we generally create them because they’re more efficient for our workflows.

gitgud 6y ago

Looks interesting, but couldn't this just sit on top of Ubuntu as a interchangeable desktop environment like KDE, Gnome, Unity etc..? Why fork the entire OS? ...

RMPR 6y ago
It's a common practice in the Ubuntu's world though: Kubuntu, Xubuntu, ... now UbuntuDDE.

paxys 6y ago

Looks like a pretty average Gnome theme with very minor changes from the default. What's the point of creating an entire distro flavor?

whalesalad 6y ago
You are spot on yet at the same time this is about 99% of Linux. Would love to see us move back towards linux being linux (a kernel) and less of a need to even 'join' a Distro or pick sides if you will. You are really picking a package manager and a philosophy on upstream software ... it is unfortunate you're implicitly or inadvertently being forced to pick about 11,000 other things too.
- qppo 6y ago
  this is missing an "I use arch btw" Those 11k other things are usually the minimum needed to have a production ready system that doesn't require you as a user to jump through hoops to provision and maintain.
  - neoberg 6y ago
    You are a sissy if you don't pick the other 11k packages by hand. Just go and use mac you fanboy. /s

jay-anderson 6y ago

I've used elementary os [1] in the past. This initially looks similar, but less polished. I hadn't heard of dde [2] before. It'd be nice to explain it on this page or provide a link. [1] https://elementary.io/ https://elementary.io/ [2] https://www.deepin.org/en/dde/ https://www.deepin.org/en/dde/

arpa 6y ago

For the most beautiful DE, it's so... meh. It's a shame. Does anyone here remember Beryl? Now that was mindblowing stuff, still can't wrap my head around the fact it's dead...

kick 6y ago
There's still an active Compiz fork, I think; Beryl merged back in, it didn't really die.
kitotik 6y ago
Perhaps wayfire[0] can fill the compiz shaped hole. [0] https://wayfire.org/ https://wayfire.org/
- GGfpc 6y ago
  Wow this is ugly
- arpa 6y ago
  It actualy seems like it could! Thanks.
renewiltord 6y ago
Oh right, I forgot all the cool things I had enabled on Compiz: live zoom, wobbly windows, the burn effect. Transparent windows! Those were great. The cube, of course. The shift switcher. Expose.

taikawatiti 6y ago

Fair warning deepin is made by a Chinese company. I know you are going to say "open source duh" and then I'll say sure like that has always worked.

hakube 6y ago

- Install Arch/Debian - Install Deepin You'll basically have the same thing. Be free from GNU+Linux distro fragmentation

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kstenerud 6y ago

My magicbook came with deepin linux installed, but unfortunately they're based off debian stable, which meant that most of the packages were severely outdated and unusable for me as a dev environment. The deepin desktop environment itself was pretty, but janky. The settings thing (on the right side of the screen) is difficult and unintuitive to navigate, and scrolling was still buggy when I used it in December (it will randomly skip sections or just get stuck when you scroll). The other apps felt similarly unpolished, like they'd put all their energy into the look rather than the boring stability side of things. In a few years it might be a nice DE, but it has a long way to go. I've tried all of the major desktops over the past year in anticipation of 20.04, but I think I'll be moving to KDE once it comes out. It seems to have the most seamless integration of them all, and still allows me to control things. I just hope the performance is good.

nsomaru 6y ago
Debian stable (buster currently) is my daily driver. I'm quite happy that I have stable targets of packages to develop against. I'm curious about the type of work you do that Debian packages are "outdated" and do not enable you to continue your work. I've used many different distros but I keep coming back to rock-solid Debian.
- hiq 6y ago
  I guess front-end development is the obvious one. The Node.js version on Debian Buster is 10.15.2~dfsg-2, while you have 12.16.2 on the official NodeJS website. To be fair, OP mentioned that the official packages were often useless, not the distribution as a whole (you can often install custom packages / binaries, although it's not nice).
  - RMPR 6y ago
    Back in time, it was node 5 while the stable version was 8.
  - adar 6y ago
    AFAIK many (most?) Node devs completely ignore the version that comes with their OS and use something like nvm to manage their Node version(s) anyway.

hpaavola 6y ago

I hate all these "most beatiful Linux desktop" things. They all suck. Let's look at this pic: https://ubuntudde.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/UbuntuDDE-Desktop.png https://ubuntudde.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/UbuntuDDE-D... It showcases the desktop of the "most beautiful desktop environment". Either it does not come with a browser installed, or the browser is not added to that launch bar or they changed the browser icon but not the email client icon. As the email client icon highlights, that icon theming does not make anything more beautiful because a lot of applications do not have an icon which would fit into the theme. Network adapter selection, charging status and other things which most are not constantly interested in are in the middle of the most important UI element. Put those somewhere so that those are not constantly in my way. Power button is also right there in the most important UI element. I don't know how others use their machines, but I'm not constantly pressing the power button of my computer. Put it somewhere where other unimportant things belong. And how does a power button, some number thingy and trash can belong to the same area? Nothing makes sense. Default gnome and KDE are more beautiful and work better. Here's the default Ubuntu desktop https://149366088.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Screenshot-2020-04-11-at-20.07.03.png https://149366088.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/202... Browser icon looks like browser icon. Icons are beautiful as their original designer intended. System settings related things like network, battery and power thingies are moved away from the importan things.

ittan 6y ago
Gnome and KDE are indeed more beautiful.
- brabel 6y ago
  Indeed.. I have been a Ubuntu user for some time, but have recently switched to KDE due to the latest Ubuntu desktop experiments which really put me off. After installing KDE Plasma, which I thought was a single DE, I was surprised to learn that, on the login page, I can actually select different DEs, like Cinnamon, Plasma, Ubuntu, Unity, Wayland... that's really amazing! I have played around with Plasma and Cinnamon, and decided to stick with Cinnamon (after tweaking it with the dark theme, it looks awesome). So happy to have many choices though. I wonder why people still feel the need to come up with more DEs instead of contributing to the plenty of existing ones...

starky 6y ago

Linux is never beautiful IMO. There are so few packages out there that actually have good UI/UX design that you could put whatever DE you want on a distro and it will still be ugly. Whenever I use Linux I pretty much always end up right back at running Openbox because it ends up being one less thing to get in the way.

eitland 6y ago
Check out KDE Neon. It is beautiful (unless you are as sensitive to alignment or typeface issues as I am to lagging ;-)
- sandov 6y ago
  I don't like KDE because I like my UI components to have padding and not look like this: https://news-cdn.softpedia.com/images/news2/kde-plasma-5-16-desktop-environment-will-bring-completely-revamped-notifications-526007-3.jpg https://news-cdn.softpedia.com/images/news2/kde-plasma-5-16-...
- starky 6y ago
  My argument is that you can choose any desktop environment you want with the most well designed window decorations, but as long as you have most packages built on GTK+ or Qt by people that aren't UI/UX experts, your system is going to be ugly.

cgb223 6y ago

Am I crazy or does this look a lot like KDE?

_ZeD_ 6y ago
well, kde can be customize to almost anything, so... sure, maybe this look a lot like "some" KDE
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RMPR 6y ago
A Gnome 3 based KDE then

sandGorgon 6y ago

From wikipedia, >The development of deepin is led by China-based Wuhan Deepin Technology Co., Ltd. The company generates revenue through the sale of technical support and other services related to it.[12] The distribution is widely praised for its aesthetics in various reviews, while also has been criticized for having used a statistical tracking service in its App Store, which was removed in July 2018. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepin

intopieces 6y ago
Can someone verify their claims as being Actually Bad and not Bad Because China? Genuinely curious.

nnq 6y ago

...can it do multiple DPIs on multiple displays? This is not eye-candy it's minimum s I need to get work done! This is as low as a bar I can imagine but last time I checked from the mainstream Linux DEs, only a version of KDE/Plasma (can't stand KDE, so was a no-go out of the bat) had this.

zerocrates 6y ago
Gnome at least has display-differing scaling factors when running in Wayland.
ggreer 6y ago
All Wayland desktop environments can do this. I think every popular distro besides Ubuntu ships with Wayland as the default now.

smabie 6y ago

What's the point of creating a new "distro" that just has a different window manager/desktop environment? Like, what kind of person would spend time doing that? Maybe that's a little harsh, but these kinds of projects seem completely pointless. Changing your wm/de doesn't take more than a couple minutes (including the download time). It might actually be harmful, the world doesn't need more distros, derivative or otherwise.

londons_explore 6y ago
Ubuntu sort of encouraged distributions which were identical in all ways except the default set of installed packages. Think kububtu, xububtu, etc. I don't think it's a bad thing - non-default packages tend to not get much use, and are hard to brand.
RMPR 6y ago
FWIW back in the days where Ubuntu used Unity, I tried to change my DE and fucked up my system, Idk, maybe I wasn't enough skilled to do thag1, but that was what make me switch to Fedora.
mastrsushi 6y ago
This is a remix, not a distribution. Nothing more than Ubuntu with a pre-installed desktop environment. Remixes give users the same benefits installing yourself provide. But they do so while keeping the oobe that makes distros like Ubuntu intuitive and competitive. I do agree the Linux distro ecosystem is a scattered mess. And that negative diversity of incompatible package managers and display systems goes against the standardizations that made POSIX dominant to begin with. When I look at Elementary"OS", I see a branding built on the foundation of what could simply be Ubuntu Pantheon Remix. The idea that these hundreds of mini distros is what caused desktop Linux to fail isn't true though. These projects are nothing more than the IT equivalent of your friend's mix tape. Or your girlfriend's slightly modified Martha Stewart recipe she boasts as her own.

DeathArrow 6y ago

>UbuntuDDE is a Remix flavor of Ubuntu system with Deepin Desktop Environment (DDE) . UbuntuDDE is a linux distribution based on Ubuntu with the most beautiful desktop environment. So by imitating macOS look they got "the most beautiful desktop environment". I don't get it. If I want macOS, I would run the real deal, either by buying a Mac or by doing a hackintosh install. Earlier there were Linux distros trying to imitate Windows XP. That was bad, too. I think time wasted and effort would be better spent on inventing something new or refining some ideas striving to do something better, trying to solve problems. I don't get the problem this desktop environment solves. Are they catering to people who love Macs but don't want to use Macs? That's a rather tiny population. Or maybe the problem they tried to solve was Linux having too few desktop environments.

RMPR 6y ago
It's a common practice in the Ubuntu's world to create a new distro just to change the DE: Kubuntu (KDE), Xubuntu (Xfce I think) , ... and now UbuntuDDE. It's even encouraged by Ubuntu's maintainers iirc.

Klonoar 6y ago

Linux GUIs have a problem understanding the difference between beauty as a visual attribute and beauty as a functional product. They never have one without the other. No, Elementary and Poppin don't count. I wish they did.

valera_rozuvan 6y ago

https://github.com/linuxdeepin/dde-file-manager/tree/develop2.0 https://github.com/linuxdeepin/dde-file-manager/tree/develop... Looking at the source code of one of the critical pieces of that distro, we can see that it has about 5 active devs (in the past 2 years). To me it looks like a strong project. Will be interesting to see where it is in 5 years. They need more presence on the various Linux news/discussion sites.

oliwarner 6y ago

Can't see any suggestion that this is officially sanctioned or supported by either trademark holder. Canonical defend the use of "Ubuntu". I would expect a name change fairly soon. And using SourceForge in 2020 doesn't fill me with confidence.

tywkeene 6y ago

A few years ago I installed FreeBSD on my main machine, and actually used it for some time (6ish months?). It was really nice that I could actually google things, and usually come to a mailing list or the FreeBSD manual for my version of the OS, and then actually be able to find what I was looking for and have it work (most of the time). It's the opposite with Linux. Yeah, this is just another "hey lets copy osx and pretend we're actually doing something real" project, and more than likely, everything will work fine just like in the standard ubuntu, but it's still just another fragment in the already overcrowded and starting-to-stink-from-all-the-dead-projects ecosystem. I get the freedom to do everything you want, fork this, change that, I get that 100%, but man it would be nice to have Linux be unified.