> Loading my profile on Twitter leads Presto to use more memory than Firefox. (Though really that's a terrible benchmark, probably want to disable in-memory cac

> Loading my profile on Twitter leads Presto to use more memory than Firefox. (Though really that's a terrible benchmark, probably want to disable in-memory caching.) That's not surprising as current Firefox has indeed made improvements. Your argument is disingenuous if you aren't comparing Opera presto with the equivalent version of Firefox of the same period. Firefox than couldn't even manage 10-20 tabs, without high RAM consumption, whereas Opera Presto could easily handle around 100+. > Morale only really collapsed after the move to WebKit, nor had there been lay offs for several years prior. I didn't claim the layoffs started years before they were sold. Opera was a solid company for some time. But many employees were laid off prior to Opera being sold to their current owners, mostly the marketing and support staffs and some developers. Morale was indeed low in the company. And rumours were already swirling around in Opera forums and popular Opera fan blogs that Presto would be dumped. (And it was dumped ultimately for Blink, a fork of webkit, created in partnership with Google). Your point about some memory issues with engines, compared to the previous versions, are correct. Despite those issues, Opera Presto was still better than Gecko during the same period. My point is to compare Apple to Apple - highlighting the weak point of a browser engine, whose development has since been abandoned, by comparing it to Gecko's current modern avatar doesn't make sense, when my argument is that Presto was a better engineered product than other browser engines of its times. Ofcourse I agree that Firefox has come a long way and is far better now. (That's why I shifted to it after Opera died). > The graph of module dependencies was ... so in many ways it really wasn't modular. Perhaps so. It is still easier to understand than Firefox's mish-mash of a codebase, because it is smaller and better coded.