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I'm curious as to what pavlovian means here

by Krns 6y ago

sricks3 6y ago
https://www.simplypsychology.org/pavlov.html https://www.simplypsychology.org/pavlov.html The concept of (consumer-grade?) permanent data storage triggers some response from him.
mcny 6y ago
I think the idea is to convey that just like a bell has no natural link to food anticipation of which causes salivation, the fact that x has always (at least as far as we remember) come with y which causes z means when we see x, we fear z will happen even though x and y need not necessarily have to come together? I believe there are people who won’t forgive text drive / Joyent for their dishonesty and sincerely we must never trust the leadership at Joyent with anything as long as they roam the earth. https://www.chargebee.com/blog/lifetime-plans-its-time-rethink-purpose/ https://www.chargebee.com/blog/lifetime-plans-its-time-rethi...
gazzini 6y ago
Pavlovian conditioning [0]: "a learning procedure in which a biologically potent stimulus (e.g. food) is paired with a previously neutral stimulus (e.g. a bell)." In my case: food: losing all my data (or it becoming incredibly difficult to access / control / afford) bell: uploading all of my data to a new internet product. ---- Most companies have unsustainable business models (grow forever). For startups, this is especially true (rapid growth forever). This is a new internet company, but their whole shtick is that they have a sustainable business model. Given that data, maybe my bias is unfair. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning
- ooobit2 6y ago
  I'm skeptical of "sustainable business" claims, as they trend zero cyclical models. So, if this is how this group is doing business every week, month, and year, they just have a different approach, not a sustainable one. Sustainable means a business shifts between periods of focused growth and periods of focused stabilization. You grind for acquisition for awhile, then you pivot into shoring up operations during a period of controlled churn. Sustainable business should be able to withstand any sudden, dramatic shifts in the market or loss of accounts, and have enough resources on-hand to have something like a continuity plan for revenue.
ineedasername 6y ago
They mean they've been conditioned to question or be suspicious of such a claim, likely through past experience.

I'm curious as to what pavlovian means here

by Krns 6y ago

I'm curious as to what pavlovian means here

https://www.simplypsychology.org/pavlov.html https://www.simplypsychology.org/pavlov.html The concept of (consumer-grade?) permanent data storage triggers some response from him.

mcny 6y ago

I think the idea is to convey that just like a bell has no natural link to food anticipation of which causes salivation, the fact that x has always (at least as far as we remember) come with y which causes z means when we see x, we fear z will happen even though x and y need not necessarily have to come together? I believe there are people who won’t forgive text drive / Joyent for their dishonesty and sincerely we must never trust the leadership at Joyent with anything as long as they roam the earth. https://www.chargebee.com/blog/lifetime-plans-its-time-rethink-purpose/ https://www.chargebee.com/blog/lifetime-plans-its-time-rethi...

gazzini 6y ago

Pavlovian conditioning [0]: "a learning procedure in which a biologically potent stimulus (e.g. food) is paired with a previously neutral stimulus (e.g. a bell)." In my case: food: losing all my data (or it becoming incredibly difficult to access / control / afford) bell: uploading all of my data to a new internet product. ---- Most companies have unsustainable business models (grow forever). For startups, this is especially true (rapid growth forever). This is a new internet company, but their whole shtick is that they have a sustainable business model. Given that data, maybe my bias is unfair. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning

ooobit2 6y ago
I'm skeptical of "sustainable business" claims, as they trend zero cyclical models. So, if this is how this group is doing business every week, month, and year, they just have a different approach, not a sustainable one. Sustainable means a business shifts between periods of focused growth and periods of focused stabilization. You grind for acquisition for awhile, then you pivot into shoring up operations during a period of controlled churn. Sustainable business should be able to withstand any sudden, dramatic shifts in the market or loss of accounts, and have enough resources on-hand to have something like a continuity plan for revenue.

ineedasername 6y ago

They mean they've been conditioned to question or be suspicious of such a claim, likely through past experience.