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> Young and healthy people are dying too A datapoint against that: We have a renowned pathologist in Hamburg (Prof Püschel) who examines every corona death in

by s9w 7y ago

> Young and healthy people are dying too A datapoint against that: We have a renowned pathologist in Hamburg (Prof Püschel) who examines every corona death in the city - about 60 so far. He was quoted multiple times that every single victim had severe preexisting conditions. And that none of them would have lived another year. He also challenged the idea that healthy/young people are in danger and gave the example of a young (I think ~30 yo) corona victim in Hamburg who actually had undiscovered severe illness. edit: So this will get -4'd soon - okay :o

akiselev 7y ago
There are over 2.5 million confirmed cases of the virus worldwide, most of which are pre-recovery. Using a sixty person sample in Hamburg to make a definitive statement of severity is beyond the realm of idiocy. It's criminally negligent.
- fock 7y ago
  also on criminiality this guy has some advanced things to tell us (this link is especially fun to post in forums where people are complaining: "this is a good guy, he wants us to be free from government oppression"): https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/klaus-pueschel-dna-codes-aller-menschen-in-deutschland-erfassen-a-1146775.html https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/klaus-pueschel-dna-co... (he wants to centrally store all DNA-codes of a population so the government can prevent crime...) – well, it turns out, he's just another rightwing autocrat pushing his very own agenda now as well
squiggleblaz 7y ago
But aren't there many cases around the world of apparently healthy doctors and nurses and others who died of coronavirus? You could say "Oh, yes, they all had an undiscovered severe illness that would have killed them within the year". But generalising from one city with only 60 odd deaths to a necessary outcome in the face of apparent evidence to the contrary from places with much higher bodycounts seems like it's a long bow to draw. It is much more likely that the people who die easiest have preexisting conditions, so when you have a low bodycount it is mostly occupied by people with preexisting conditions.
- zwischenzug 7y ago
  'Viral load' is said to be a factor here.
thawaway1837 7y ago
Every single human being has preexisting conditions.
- s9w 7y ago
  I wrote severe
moogleii 7y ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/05/magazine/first-coronavirus-patient-new-jersey.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/05/magazine/first-coronaviru... He’s 33. You can find plenty more young and younger cases if you look. They are rarer than older cases but the idea that young people in general are not in danger is ridiculous. Hell, I’m 37, maybe on the border of young, and had to be hospitalized due to COVID and I had no preexisting conditions. Consider looking at a larger sample size than 60.
- dingaling 7y ago
  > Consider looking at a larger sample size than 60. You used a sample size of one

by s9w 7y ago

akiselev 7y ago

There are over 2.5 million confirmed cases of the virus worldwide, most of which are pre-recovery. Using a sixty person sample in Hamburg to make a definitive statement of severity is beyond the realm of idiocy. It's criminally negligent.

fock 7y ago
also on criminiality this guy has some advanced things to tell us (this link is especially fun to post in forums where people are complaining: "this is a good guy, he wants us to be free from government oppression"): https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/klaus-pueschel-dna-codes-aller-menschen-in-deutschland-erfassen-a-1146775.html https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/klaus-pueschel-dna-co... (he wants to centrally store all DNA-codes of a population so the government can prevent crime...) – well, it turns out, he's just another rightwing autocrat pushing his very own agenda now as well

squiggleblaz 7y ago

But aren't there many cases around the world of apparently healthy doctors and nurses and others who died of coronavirus? You could say "Oh, yes, they all had an undiscovered severe illness that would have killed them within the year". But generalising from one city with only 60 odd deaths to a necessary outcome in the face of apparent evidence to the contrary from places with much higher bodycounts seems like it's a long bow to draw. It is much more likely that the people who die easiest have preexisting conditions, so when you have a low bodycount it is mostly occupied by people with preexisting conditions.

zwischenzug 7y ago
'Viral load' is said to be a factor here.

thawaway1837 7y ago

Every single human being has preexisting conditions.

s9w 7y ago
I wrote severe

moogleii 7y ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/05/magazine/first-coronavirus-patient-new-jersey.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/05/magazine/first-coronaviru... He’s 33. You can find plenty more young and younger cases if you look. They are rarer than older cases but the idea that young people in general are not in danger is ridiculous. Hell, I’m 37, maybe on the border of young, and had to be hospitalized due to COVID and I had no preexisting conditions. Consider looking at a larger sample size than 60.

dingaling 7y ago
> Consider looking at a larger sample size than 60. You used a sample size of one