We might not end up agreeing today but I'll admit you argue well. I'll note though: - In both cases one persons carelessness hurts others, only to a much stro

We might not end up agreeing today but I'll admit you argue well. I'll note though: - In both cases one persons carelessness hurts others, only to a much stronger degree in the original version. - I agree, and it is obvious to me that one persons relatives or employer cannot have a say in everything and that some risky behaviors should be allowed as for example skydiving might actually be healthy. - I agree that maybe it shouldn't fall under criminal laws, I mean I see no reason why a person shouldn't get a visa or a gun permit because they were caught without a seatbelt, but I still want a way to make more people use it. (On a side note, I don't think seatbelt goes on permanent record around here.) I also guess people with tax paid health care might care more than people who have individual insurances pay for their health care. Regarding my other example: the rules are for Norwegians that leave the country to buy cheap meat or booze and then come back - fully aware that they should self quarantine. With the previous rules they would enjoy a complementary free holiday, paid for by their employers and taxpayers. That won't be tolerated anymore. As for the Swedes yes, I agree, they are free to do whatever they want and I think I was careful to not judge them, I'll wait with that until we see the end of this pandemic.