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An Update on the Status of Our UX Design Program

narrowtux 7y ago
If I'm skimming this correctly, it's only suspended until they've addressed these issues.
petee 7y ago
I feel they should get a lot of credit for being this transparent; it would have been really easy to make quiet changes and sweep it under the rug, and move on. I am also not surprised that UX designers are having difficulty finding jobs since lately app and website design seemingly trend heavily towards 'user be damned', with the most basic interface fails. They certainly couldn't have been designed by someone with an inkling of training!
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- tecleandor 7y ago
  It's too late to be transparent, IMO.
  - petee 7y ago
    Care to expand on that? Were you one of the students? Sounds like it didn't work, and they're fixing it. Seems way better than just let the grumblings of failed jobless students leak out over the years.
  - gazzini 7y ago
    This post is 1 month old. But ignoring that, why is it too late? Have a lot of UX students come forward complaining about the program? I haven't been following the news around it, I'm genuinely curious. This article strikes me as honest & transparent in the beginning, and very hand-wavy, we-hired-a-consultant-to-write-this-so-we're-provably-covering-our-bases-look-at-all-we're-doing-to-address-this-please-don't-sue towards the end.
    - tecleandor 7y ago
      Seems like there were plenty of problems past year already... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22392517 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22392517
      - petee 7y ago
        Um, that link is this year, and for the same topic, at the same time...
        tecleandor 7y ago
        The link on that post talks about 2019, the recolection of the events was pasted this year but still...
Wowfunhappy 7y ago
I don’t think there’s a strong reason not to use the link’s original title, is there? It would be: > An Update on the Status of Our UX Design Program Edit: Thank you to whoever changed it!
DonHopkins 7y ago
What happens if Lambda shuts down? Are all the people they trained who are obligated to pay them part of their salary off the hook, or are those obligations a resource that Lambda can liquidate to pay off their creditors, and their customers still have to pay whoever bought the rights from Lambda?
- WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
  For sure those ISAs will get sold and resold... probably packaged into traunches.
  - paulgb 7y ago
    Yep, this is already happening https://mobile.twitter.com/edlyISA/status/1204853625459216385 https://mobile.twitter.com/edlyISA/status/120485362545921638...
- petee 7y ago
  If you completed the course, and had a contractual obligation to, I don't see why not? Would it matter if you had paid up front, still got a job, and lambda shut down later? I'd think the only argument is if you got an honest education or not. Down-voted for expecting people pay what they said they would -- this is why we can't have nice things haha
  - rusticpenn 7y ago
    Yes, I don't understand why their approach is bad. The choice is between paying a bank or the school.
- Traster 7y ago
  It's worth noting that the entire shtick of "We don't get paid unless you get a job" is bullshit. Those rights to part of your salary can be sold off to other people, and that has already happened several times - so Lambda got paid whether you got a job or not.
  - 7y ago

If I'm skimming this correctly, it's only suspended until they've addressed these issues.

I feel they should get a lot of credit for being this transparent; it would have been really easy to make quiet changes and sweep it under the rug, and move on. I am also not surprised that UX designers are having difficulty finding jobs since lately app and website design seemingly trend heavily towards 'user be damned', with the most basic interface fails. They certainly couldn't have been designed by someone with an inkling of training!

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tecleandor 7y ago
It's too late to be transparent, IMO.
- petee 7y ago
  Care to expand on that? Were you one of the students? Sounds like it didn't work, and they're fixing it. Seems way better than just let the grumblings of failed jobless students leak out over the years.
- gazzini 7y ago
  This post is 1 month old. But ignoring that, why is it too late? Have a lot of UX students come forward complaining about the program? I haven't been following the news around it, I'm genuinely curious. This article strikes me as honest & transparent in the beginning, and very hand-wavy, we-hired-a-consultant-to-write-this-so-we're-provably-covering-our-bases-look-at-all-we're-doing-to-address-this-please-don't-sue towards the end.
  - tecleandor 7y ago
    Seems like there were plenty of problems past year already... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22392517 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22392517
    - petee 7y ago
      Um, that link is this year, and for the same topic, at the same time...
      - tecleandor 7y ago
        The link on that post talks about 2019, the recolection of the events was pasted this year but still...

Wowfunhappy 7y ago

I don’t think there’s a strong reason not to use the link’s original title, is there? It would be: > An Update on the Status of Our UX Design Program Edit: Thank you to whoever changed it!

DonHopkins 7y ago

What happens if Lambda shuts down? Are all the people they trained who are obligated to pay them part of their salary off the hook, or are those obligations a resource that Lambda can liquidate to pay off their creditors, and their customers still have to pay whoever bought the rights from Lambda?

WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
For sure those ISAs will get sold and resold... probably packaged into traunches.
- paulgb 7y ago
  Yep, this is already happening https://mobile.twitter.com/edlyISA/status/1204853625459216385 https://mobile.twitter.com/edlyISA/status/120485362545921638...
petee 7y ago
If you completed the course, and had a contractual obligation to, I don't see why not? Would it matter if you had paid up front, still got a job, and lambda shut down later? I'd think the only argument is if you got an honest education or not. Down-voted for expecting people pay what they said they would -- this is why we can't have nice things haha
- rusticpenn 7y ago
  Yes, I don't understand why their approach is bad. The choice is between paying a bank or the school.
Traster 7y ago
It's worth noting that the entire shtick of "We don't get paid unless you get a job" is bullshit. Those rights to part of your salary can be sold off to other people, and that has already happened several times - so Lambda got paid whether you got a job or not.
- 7y ago