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Original tweet: (now gone) Apple doesn’t let employees contribute to unapproved OSS projects (even in their personal time). So some of my projects could use a

Original tweet: (now gone) Apple doesn’t let employees contribute to unapproved OSS projects (even in their personal time). So some of my projects could use a maintainer to manage PRs: <cut> If you’re interested, please let me know!

emiliovesprini 7y ago
Who was the tweet from?
- fao_ 7y ago
  It's in the link - https://twitter.com/mdiep https://twitter.com/mdiep
H8crilA 7y ago
It might be that Apple has a fair and speedy approval process. My employer is like that.
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- saagarjha 7y ago
  It doesn't.
battery_cowboy 7y ago
I'll never work for a company that tried to limit my personal time in any way.
- nine_k 7y ago
  Some ways may be reasonable, e.g. running a commercial side project which is a direct competitor of your employer's product. In this case, the moral hazard of using company's internal knowledge which is under an NDA is very high indeed. But the list of such disallowed activities should be short and reasonable.
  - battery_cowboy 7y ago
    Direct competition would be one area I would allow them to limit, clearly they're paying me to work on their stuff first. However, a product in the same industry that my company wasn't persuing at that time would be fair game. At least that's what I believe is fair.
sebastien_bois 7y ago
Sounds to me like if they own you 24 hrs/day, you should get paid 3x normal wages.
- nine_k 7y ago
  Do they? I suppose that Apple is one of the FAANG which are known for their rather-above-market compensation packages.
  - nailer 7y ago
    No they don't. It's nowhere near 3x .
- winter_blue 7y ago
  Well, they are pretty close to that then. A friend of mine recently joined Google as a L5 SWE, and is making around 400k a year (he's on the upper band for L5 - couldn't make the cut for L6). That's about 3x what very good engineers in high cost-of-living cities in the US normally make. I'd say 135k is probably the median for very good engineers at the average company. (Of course, you could argue whether they're "very good", but I'd say they are, while noting that Google et al is obviously a different caliber, but one partially achievable with many hours of grinding on leetcode/hckerrank/etc.)

emiliovesprini 7y ago

Who was the tweet from?

fao_ 7y ago
It's in the link - https://twitter.com/mdiep https://twitter.com/mdiep

H8crilA 7y ago

It might be that Apple has a fair and speedy approval process. My employer is like that.

deleted 7y ago
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saagarjha 7y ago
It doesn't.

battery_cowboy 7y ago

I'll never work for a company that tried to limit my personal time in any way.

nine_k 7y ago
Some ways may be reasonable, e.g. running a commercial side project which is a direct competitor of your employer's product. In this case, the moral hazard of using company's internal knowledge which is under an NDA is very high indeed. But the list of such disallowed activities should be short and reasonable.
- battery_cowboy 7y ago
  Direct competition would be one area I would allow them to limit, clearly they're paying me to work on their stuff first. However, a product in the same industry that my company wasn't persuing at that time would be fair game. At least that's what I believe is fair.

sebastien_bois 7y ago

Sounds to me like if they own you 24 hrs/day, you should get paid 3x normal wages.

nine_k 7y ago
Do they? I suppose that Apple is one of the FAANG which are known for their rather-above-market compensation packages.
- nailer 7y ago
  No they don't. It's nowhere near 3x .
winter_blue 7y ago
Well, they are pretty close to that then. A friend of mine recently joined Google as a L5 SWE, and is making around 400k a year (he's on the upper band for L5 - couldn't make the cut for L6). That's about 3x what very good engineers in high cost-of-living cities in the US normally make. I'd say 135k is probably the median for very good engineers at the average company. (Of course, you could argue whether they're "very good", but I'd say they are, while noting that Google et al is obviously a different caliber, but one partially achievable with many hours of grinding on leetcode/hckerrank/etc.)