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Are they an engineering-first company though? E.g. the entire XMPP fiasco wouldn't have happened if engineers had made the decision. Which engineer would shut
by toohotatopic 7y ago
Are they an engineering-first company though? E.g. the entire XMPP fiasco wouldn't have happened if engineers had made the decision. Which engineer would shut down an open protocol to fight a competitor instead of offering the better product? In the end, they lost the space to Facebook and now Zoom anyway.
- dub 7y agoDid XMPP support seamless conversation history and avoiding duplicate notifications across all of your devices?
- nemothekid 7y agoWhich engineer would shut down an open protocol to fight a competitor instead of offering the better product Probably any engineer that wanted to implement cross device message syncing or end to end encryption without dealing with the politics of 1000s of other companies. Not saying what Google did, but I'm tired of hearing about this XMPP (and/or IRC) pancea when both had non-trivial UX issues.
- majormajor 7y agoOpen != good. "Not Invented Here" doesn't just come about from anticompetitiveness or stubborness, sometimes there are real problems encountered - especially in edge cases or at scale - where trying to fix them through navigating open standards vs making your own thing that works better for you is a really viable option. See also Google's reinvention of things like build tools internally. Lots of open source versions, but they caused plenty of engineering pain of their own.