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The nice thing is that Ubiquiti and others are moving to a new set of switches that seem to make 10Gig much cheaper. (Check out the new 10gGIGE UDM Pro and swit

The nice thing is that Ubiquiti and others are moving to a new set of switches that seem to make 10Gig much cheaper. (Check out the new 10gGIGE UDM Pro and switches). That should change the equation... eventually.

tecleandor 7y ago
Mikrotik has a bunch of very affordable 10G switches too :)
- StillBored 7y ago
  Still SFP based though, netgear has an 8 port + 2 10GbaseT which does 2.5/5 as well for ~$150 (GS110MX). Which is a real upgrade path, particularly for POE wifi AP's, and people unable/uninterested in pulling cable. The problem with 10G is that the datacenter/nerds are still pushing sfp/fibre. Which completely misunderstands how people actually use 1G today. These 10GbaseT switches are literally drop in replacements for existing switches, and as the need arises cables can be upgraded. Which it turns out for home use, properly terminated cat5e works just fine at 10Gbit.
  - justincormack 7y ago
    We seem to have recently switched from 10GbaseT to SFP but with reasonably cheap 10GBaseT adaptors, https://www.servethehome.com/sfp-to-10gbase-t-adapter-module-buyers-guide/ https://www.servethehome.com/sfp-to-10gbase-t-adapter-module... with cheaper switches and more widely available cards. Even motherboards have switched to sfp, but you dont have to use fibre. DAC is another cheap option for short distances with SFP.
    - tecleandor 7y ago
      I've been using a mix of DAC cables and 10G Base SR, which are quite cheap and convenient. I'm using Mikrotik switches and FS modules and seem to work fine.
jdsully 7y ago
The UDM Pro is just a run of the mill switch with 10gig backplane. We really need to start seeing true 8 port 10gig switches at reasonable prices for this to take off. This 4 port Mirotik product is a good first start: https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in
hhw 7y ago
You're unlikely to see anywhere near line rate though, especially with higher packets/s, as cheaper equipment tends to use CPU based forwarding. Whereas ASICs based gear, even when using merchant silicon like Broadcom or Marvell, still cost a decent amount.
fomine3 7y ago
QNAP also offers cheap 10G unmanaged switches that I've bought. It looks like more consumer-oriented compared to Ubiquiti/MikroTik.

tecleandor 7y ago

Mikrotik has a bunch of very affordable 10G switches too :)

StillBored 7y ago
Still SFP based though, netgear has an 8 port + 2 10GbaseT which does 2.5/5 as well for ~$150 (GS110MX). Which is a real upgrade path, particularly for POE wifi AP's, and people unable/uninterested in pulling cable. The problem with 10G is that the datacenter/nerds are still pushing sfp/fibre. Which completely misunderstands how people actually use 1G today. These 10GbaseT switches are literally drop in replacements for existing switches, and as the need arises cables can be upgraded. Which it turns out for home use, properly terminated cat5e works just fine at 10Gbit.
- justincormack 7y ago
  We seem to have recently switched from 10GbaseT to SFP but with reasonably cheap 10GBaseT adaptors, https://www.servethehome.com/sfp-to-10gbase-t-adapter-module-buyers-guide/ https://www.servethehome.com/sfp-to-10gbase-t-adapter-module... with cheaper switches and more widely available cards. Even motherboards have switched to sfp, but you dont have to use fibre. DAC is another cheap option for short distances with SFP.
  - tecleandor 7y ago
    I've been using a mix of DAC cables and 10G Base SR, which are quite cheap and convenient. I'm using Mikrotik switches and FS modules and seem to work fine.

jdsully 7y ago

The UDM Pro is just a run of the mill switch with 10gig backplane. We really need to start seeing true 8 port 10gig switches at reasonable prices for this to take off. This 4 port Mirotik product is a good first start: https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in

hhw 7y ago

You're unlikely to see anywhere near line rate though, especially with higher packets/s, as cheaper equipment tends to use CPU based forwarding. Whereas ASICs based gear, even when using merchant silicon like Broadcom or Marvell, still cost a decent amount.

fomine3 7y ago

QNAP also offers cheap 10G unmanaged switches that I've bought. It looks like more consumer-oriented compared to Ubiquiti/MikroTik.