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I'm amazed nobody has mentioned Komoot https://komoot.com/ https://komoot.com/ yet. They have an excellent route planning tool for cycling, at least in Europe.

I'm amazed nobody has mentioned Komoot https://komoot.com/ https://komoot.com/ yet. They have an excellent route planning tool for cycling, at least in Europe. I can't vouch for other areas of the world, though.

tchvil 7y ago
Strava just improved their mapping recently on the mobile. You draw with your finger a shape, and in seconds(it is impressively fast) it gives you a route to follow. Based on their heatmap probably. I then still have to import it in Komoot before using it, to filter out unwanted surfaces or way types. I tried it for a few rides already and the route selection was great.
- ronyfadel 7y ago
  I believe that feature only comes with paid Strava? When I try to activate "Explore Routes", it asks me for 59.99€
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  - tchvil 7y ago
    Yes, it is only for paying users
throwaway287391 7y ago
Komoot's routes are great for me as well. What I really dislike about it is its process for "stopping" navigation -- it seems to require about 7 taps to bypass all the "social" features (share my route, tag friends you cycled with, add photos and a narrative about how beautiful the route is, etc.) that I'll never use because I just want a goddamned navigation app. But I get it, gotta be able to tell the VCs it's a data play and put food on the table somehow. (Edit: to be fair I just did a count -- it was 1 tap + long hold + 4 regular taps, though each is on a different part of the screen so you can't just button mash your way through. So I exaggerated a bit, it's more like 5.5 taps instead of 7.)
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karussell 7y ago
The important point to note is the data they use: it is OpenStreetMap. It is such an incredible project and there are many great navigation apps. And yes, one of them is Komoot. But my opinion in this regard might be biased as I'm one of the developers of the underlying open source routing engine they use.
wott 7y ago
Hmm, I followed the link and just tried it for a 100-120 km trip from my home and it picks up the route with the steepest possible climbs, even if I take "Couch potato" as "fitness" choice. If I try to nudge it into another general direction, it will pick up again the hardest route in that direction. I know for having ridden them, that there is one route completely flat, another with just a few very small hills, and a few other ones with one or two longer but smooth climbs. It seems to just aim at the shortest route, doesn't matter if there are 10% climbs in it.

tchvil 7y ago

Strava just improved their mapping recently on the mobile. You draw with your finger a shape, and in seconds(it is impressively fast) it gives you a route to follow. Based on their heatmap probably. I then still have to import it in Komoot before using it, to filter out unwanted surfaces or way types. I tried it for a few rides already and the route selection was great.

ronyfadel 7y ago
I believe that feature only comes with paid Strava? When I try to activate "Explore Routes", it asks me for 59.99€
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- tchvil 7y ago
  Yes, it is only for paying users

throwaway287391 7y ago

Komoot's routes are great for me as well. What I really dislike about it is its process for "stopping" navigation -- it seems to require about 7 taps to bypass all the "social" features (share my route, tag friends you cycled with, add photos and a narrative about how beautiful the route is, etc.) that I'll never use because I just want a goddamned navigation app. But I get it, gotta be able to tell the VCs it's a data play and put food on the table somehow. (Edit: to be fair I just did a count -- it was 1 tap + long hold + 4 regular taps, though each is on a different part of the screen so you can't just button mash your way through. So I exaggerated a bit, it's more like 5.5 taps instead of 7.)

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karussell 7y ago

The important point to note is the data they use: it is OpenStreetMap. It is such an incredible project and there are many great navigation apps. And yes, one of them is Komoot. But my opinion in this regard might be biased as I'm one of the developers of the underlying open source routing engine they use.

wott 7y ago

Hmm, I followed the link and just tried it for a 100-120 km trip from my home and it picks up the route with the steepest possible climbs, even if I take "Couch potato" as "fitness" choice. If I try to nudge it into another general direction, it will pick up again the hardest route in that direction. I know for having ridden them, that there is one route completely flat, another with just a few very small hills, and a few other ones with one or two longer but smooth climbs. It seems to just aim at the shortest route, doesn't matter if there are 10% climbs in it.