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Nextjs is most likely going to be the new Ruby on Rails. javascript all the way down, static rendering, PWA, server side rendering...everything baked in. This

Nextjs is most likely going to be the new Ruby on Rails. javascript all the way down, static rendering, PWA, server side rendering...everything baked in. This is a big backing for Next. However rebranding to Vercel is bad.

franky47 7y ago
That's the objective of Blitz.js [1]: build on top of Next.js for a rails-like experience, but made by an independent open-source community. [1] https://blitzjs.com/ https://blitzjs.com/ - https://github.com/blitz-js/blitz https://github.com/blitz-js/blitz
- k__ 7y ago
  Pretty slick! I thought about making "higher level" frameworks by combining "lower level" frameworks myself. How did you do it? I mean, it's not just wrapping the libraries, but also the CLIs.
  - deleted 7y ago
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- sandGorgon 7y ago
  This is very cool. One suggestion - I highly recommend you mention that you're leveraging nextjs. There is a certain buy-in that nextjs has that would be hard elsewhere. In fact I would say that I would totally pay an annual subscription for this (even on "starter marketplaces" like themeforest).
  - franky47 7y ago
    It's not my project, you can probably talk about it with its creator: https://twitter.com/flybayer https://twitter.com/flybayer
  - flybayer 7y ago
    This is literally the first listed feature :)
covidcovidcovid 7y ago
I prefer to use other languages on backend something like C#, because JavaScript is too error-prone. You can't even just add two numbers (try (0.1 + 0.2) === 0.3) without some workarounds. and there are millions other issues with the language.
- acdibble 7y ago
  It's not just JavaScript with that issue... https://0.30000000000000004.com/ https://0.30000000000000004.com/
  - covidcovidcovid 7y ago
    Not if you use decimal type that is not available in JavaScript.
    - SloopJon 7y ago
      I'm curious what you're comparing JavaScript to. Decimal is the native numeric datatype for the stored procedure language of the database I use. Otherwise, even in languages that have a decimal class in their standard library, it's usually pretty clunky to use; no better than, say, https://github.com/MikeMcl/decimal.js/ https://github.com/MikeMcl/decimal.js/ C# is perhaps the best among mainstream languages, although its implementation is a bit weird.
      - covidcovidcovid 7y ago
        What is clunky about decimal type? You declare a decimal variable and then use it exactly like any other numeric type. Here is an example: https://dotnetfiddle.net/jjJHA6 https://dotnetfiddle.net/jjJHA6
- WJW 7y ago
  0.1 + 0.2 == 0.3 returns false in all the interpreters I have installed locally (Ruby, Python, NodeJS and Haskell), and you can't with a straight face pretend that Haskells type system is not strict enough. Because I was curious, I tested it out with C# on repl.it and behold, 0.1 + 0.2 == 0.3 returns false in C# as well: https://repl.it/repls/AdoredValidVirtualmachines https://repl.it/repls/AdoredValidVirtualmachines. Not very surprising of course, since that "error" is a result of the IEEE floating point spec and not of any language.
zaiste 7y ago
That's also the objective of Kretes [1], a programming environment for TypeScript & Node.js (soon Deno) with built-in support for plain SQL and GraphQL [1]: https://kretes.dev/ https://kretes.dev/
simplify 7y ago
Ruby on Rails is still the new Ruby on Rails. JS solutions still need another five years to catch up, unfortunately.
- JoshuaScript 7y ago
  What do you feel like JS solutions are still missing?
  - cdeutsch 6y ago
    Ruby on Rails is opinionated. JavaScript is the exact opposite. The data access layer in JS leaves a lot to be desired (especially compared to Rails) React almost felt like a winner for single page apps, but there was never a great "flux" pattern to use, and now they've completely ruined that ecosystem with Hooks. Also SPA's have become so big and bloated it's time to go back to something that you can build progressive web apps with like jQuery.
jerrycruncher 7y ago
Agreed. I've shipped projects in ASP.Net MVC, Rails, Django, Grails, and Express, and to paraphrase Alan Kay[1], NextJS is the first javascript server-side framework worth criticizing. [1] https://www.fastcompany.com/40435064/what-alan-kay-thinks-about-the-iphone-and-technology-now https://www.fastcompany.com/40435064/what-alan-kay-thinks-ab...

franky47 7y ago

That's the objective of Blitz.js [1]: build on top of Next.js for a rails-like experience, but made by an independent open-source community. [1] https://blitzjs.com/ https://blitzjs.com/ - https://github.com/blitz-js/blitz https://github.com/blitz-js/blitz

k__ 7y ago
Pretty slick! I thought about making "higher level" frameworks by combining "lower level" frameworks myself. How did you do it? I mean, it's not just wrapping the libraries, but also the CLIs.
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
sandGorgon 7y ago
This is very cool. One suggestion - I highly recommend you mention that you're leveraging nextjs. There is a certain buy-in that nextjs has that would be hard elsewhere. In fact I would say that I would totally pay an annual subscription for this (even on "starter marketplaces" like themeforest).
- franky47 7y ago
  It's not my project, you can probably talk about it with its creator: https://twitter.com/flybayer https://twitter.com/flybayer
- flybayer 7y ago
  This is literally the first listed feature :)

covidcovidcovid 7y ago

I prefer to use other languages on backend something like C#, because JavaScript is too error-prone. You can't even just add two numbers (try (0.1 + 0.2) === 0.3) without some workarounds. and there are millions other issues with the language.

acdibble 7y ago
It's not just JavaScript with that issue... https://0.30000000000000004.com/ https://0.30000000000000004.com/
- covidcovidcovid 7y ago
  Not if you use decimal type that is not available in JavaScript.
  - SloopJon 7y ago
    I'm curious what you're comparing JavaScript to. Decimal is the native numeric datatype for the stored procedure language of the database I use. Otherwise, even in languages that have a decimal class in their standard library, it's usually pretty clunky to use; no better than, say, https://github.com/MikeMcl/decimal.js/ https://github.com/MikeMcl/decimal.js/ C# is perhaps the best among mainstream languages, although its implementation is a bit weird.
    - covidcovidcovid 7y ago
      What is clunky about decimal type? You declare a decimal variable and then use it exactly like any other numeric type. Here is an example: https://dotnetfiddle.net/jjJHA6 https://dotnetfiddle.net/jjJHA6
WJW 7y ago
0.1 + 0.2 == 0.3 returns false in all the interpreters I have installed locally (Ruby, Python, NodeJS and Haskell), and you can't with a straight face pretend that Haskells type system is not strict enough. Because I was curious, I tested it out with C# on repl.it and behold, 0.1 + 0.2 == 0.3 returns false in C# as well: https://repl.it/repls/AdoredValidVirtualmachines https://repl.it/repls/AdoredValidVirtualmachines. Not very surprising of course, since that "error" is a result of the IEEE floating point spec and not of any language.

zaiste 7y ago

That's also the objective of Kretes [1], a programming environment for TypeScript & Node.js (soon Deno) with built-in support for plain SQL and GraphQL [1]: https://kretes.dev/ https://kretes.dev/

simplify 7y ago

Ruby on Rails is still the new Ruby on Rails. JS solutions still need another five years to catch up, unfortunately.

JoshuaScript 7y ago
What do you feel like JS solutions are still missing?
- cdeutsch 6y ago
  Ruby on Rails is opinionated. JavaScript is the exact opposite. The data access layer in JS leaves a lot to be desired (especially compared to Rails) React almost felt like a winner for single page apps, but there was never a great "flux" pattern to use, and now they've completely ruined that ecosystem with Hooks. Also SPA's have become so big and bloated it's time to go back to something that you can build progressive web apps with like jQuery.

jerrycruncher 7y ago

Agreed. I've shipped projects in ASP.Net MVC, Rails, Django, Grails, and Express, and to paraphrase Alan Kay[1], NextJS is the first javascript server-side framework worth criticizing. [1] https://www.fastcompany.com/40435064/what-alan-kay-thinks-about-the-iphone-and-technology-now https://www.fastcompany.com/40435064/what-alan-kay-thinks-ab...