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That article is old by corona standards. The tone has changed a lot internationally now when Sweden actually seems to have it under control even though essentia

by Kiro 7y ago

That article is old by corona standards. The tone has changed a lot internationally now when Sweden actually seems to have it under control even though essentially minimal measures have been taken. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8235979/UKs-coronavirus-crisis-peaked-lockdown-Expert-argues-draconian-measures-unnecessary.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8235979/UKs-coronav... https://www.welt.de/print/die_welt/finanzen/article207268361/Gastbeitrag-Schweden-Vorbild-fuer-Deutschland.html https://www.welt.de/print/die_welt/finanzen/article207268361...

CaptainZapp 7y ago
Sweden is slithering into a full blown catastrophy, killing over 1'300 mostly elderly people with their laissez-fair approach [1]. As of the latest WHO status report they count 1'540 dead as per yesterday[2]. Given, that they country only 14385 confirmed cases this indicates that there is a massive lack in testing. Looking at experiences from other countries the numbers are bound to explode in the next few days. I understand, given the current yearning for wishful thinking that people point to Sweden as a role model for managing the crisis. The grim reality, however, looks very different and Sweden is on the best way to one of the greatest corona catastrophies in Europe. So much for Sweden having it under control. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/19/anger-in-sweden-as-elderly-pay-price-for-coronavirus-strategy https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/19/anger-in-swede... [2]https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200420-sitrep-91-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=fcf0670b_4 https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situati...
- Kiro 7y ago
  You're assuming too much. We had just 40 new coronavirus deaths yesterday and the curve has been declining for two weeks (from a top of over 100). We still have a 20% ICU capacity in Stockholm (the hardest hit region). Yes, we've only been testing people who require medical attention. No-one thinks we only have 15 000 cases. We probably have a hundreds of thousands of cases in Stockholm alone but the consensus in Sweden is that Stockholm will reach herd immunity in May. Neighbouring countries are starting to ease up their restrictions so I think we will see an explosion of cases there compared to Sweden but let's talk again in a few days to see if it really exploded in Sweden like you claim it will.

by Kiro 7y ago

CaptainZapp 7y ago

Sweden is slithering into a full blown catastrophy, killing over 1'300 mostly elderly people with their laissez-fair approach [1]. As of the latest WHO status report they count 1'540 dead as per yesterday[2]. Given, that they country only 14385 confirmed cases this indicates that there is a massive lack in testing. Looking at experiences from other countries the numbers are bound to explode in the next few days. I understand, given the current yearning for wishful thinking that people point to Sweden as a role model for managing the crisis. The grim reality, however, looks very different and Sweden is on the best way to one of the greatest corona catastrophies in Europe. So much for Sweden having it under control. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/19/anger-in-sweden-as-elderly-pay-price-for-coronavirus-strategy https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/19/anger-in-swede... [2]https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200420-sitrep-91-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=fcf0670b_4 https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situati...

Kiro 7y ago
You're assuming too much. We had just 40 new coronavirus deaths yesterday and the curve has been declining for two weeks (from a top of over 100). We still have a 20% ICU capacity in Stockholm (the hardest hit region). Yes, we've only been testing people who require medical attention. No-one thinks we only have 15 000 cases. We probably have a hundreds of thousands of cases in Stockholm alone but the consensus in Sweden is that Stockholm will reach herd immunity in May. Neighbouring countries are starting to ease up their restrictions so I think we will see an explosion of cases there compared to Sweden but let's talk again in a few days to see if it really exploded in Sweden like you claim it will.