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Eating, sleeping, and joy are not typically considered tedious or wearisome.

TeMPOraL 6y ago
Eating and sleeping sure as hell are tedious and wearisome, since they're basic maintenance tasks that you have to do if you want to function, taking time and attention away from the things you're interested in doing. (Yes, I enjoy a tasty meal and a good night's sleep. But I'd much prefer to just live without having to sleep or eat at all. Or, eat a pill and recharge in a base station for 20 minutes.)
- slfnflctd 6y ago
  Oh man, I've been saying this for years, count me in. Let's find a way to reduce or eliminate the need for personal hygiene while we're at it. Robot bodies! We could theoretically still have sex virtually, too.
  - TeMPOraL 6y ago
    > Let's find a way to reduce or eliminate the need for personal hygiene while we're at it. Definitely. It's another maintenance time waster, another upkeep you have to pay. What's worse, only a fraction of it is needed for survival, the rest is just an elaborate social signalling game with almost unbounded costs in time and money. > We could theoretically still have sex virtually, too. Only if it offers improvement over status quo :).
    - sdegutis 6y ago
      This philosophy would eventually do away with art and music.
      - TeMPOraL 6y ago
        Why? Art and music is something you do because you want to, not because you have to.
        sdegutis 6y ago
        In your philosophy, music and art do not serve a necessary function, and eventually, even liking things will be made "more efficient" by using chemicals via pills to adjust the brain chemicals until the liking is added or the desire for liking is removed.
        TeMPOraL 6y ago
        Read my comments again. In my philosophy, we should strive to get rid of or minimize all necessary stuff, in order to free time, money and attention for pursuits of things one wants and not just needs. So, painting stays, dusting the apartment goes.
        sdegutis 6y ago
        Some people find it fun to clean and a chore to play video games.
  - bregma 6y ago
    Well, I guess I have accidentally stumbled into the future. Except for the robot body, I could really use one of those because the one I have is starting to break down.
- draw_down 6y ago
  Eating and sleeping are great. You guys are nuts.

Eating and sleeping sure as hell are tedious and wearisome, since they're basic maintenance tasks that you have to do if you want to function, taking time and attention away from the things you're interested in doing. (Yes, I enjoy a tasty meal and a good night's sleep. But I'd much prefer to just live without having to sleep or eat at all. Or, eat a pill and recharge in a base station for 20 minutes.)

slfnflctd 6y ago
Oh man, I've been saying this for years, count me in. Let's find a way to reduce or eliminate the need for personal hygiene while we're at it. Robot bodies! We could theoretically still have sex virtually, too.
- TeMPOraL 6y ago
  > Let's find a way to reduce or eliminate the need for personal hygiene while we're at it. Definitely. It's another maintenance time waster, another upkeep you have to pay. What's worse, only a fraction of it is needed for survival, the rest is just an elaborate social signalling game with almost unbounded costs in time and money. > We could theoretically still have sex virtually, too. Only if it offers improvement over status quo :).
  - sdegutis 6y ago
    This philosophy would eventually do away with art and music.
    - TeMPOraL 6y ago
      Why? Art and music is something you do because you want to, not because you have to.
      - sdegutis 6y ago
        In your philosophy, music and art do not serve a necessary function, and eventually, even liking things will be made "more efficient" by using chemicals via pills to adjust the brain chemicals until the liking is added or the desire for liking is removed.
        TeMPOraL 6y ago
        Read my comments again. In my philosophy, we should strive to get rid of or minimize all necessary stuff, in order to free time, money and attention for pursuits of things one wants and not just needs. So, painting stays, dusting the apartment goes.
        sdegutis 6y ago
        Some people find it fun to clean and a chore to play video games.
- bregma 6y ago
  Well, I guess I have accidentally stumbled into the future. Except for the robot body, I could really use one of those because the one I have is starting to break down.
draw_down 6y ago
Eating and sleeping are great. You guys are nuts.