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May be for healthy, but not for the people with certain underlying conditions like diabetes, high BP, obesity etc. Also even if you are not vulnerable to the di

May be for healthy, but not for the people with certain underlying conditions like diabetes, high BP, obesity etc. Also even if you are not vulnerable to the disease, you could be spreading this to the others who are even without showing symptoms. Look at Sweden. They decided to let the people at risk stay home while others go out and about their business. Didn't work out too well for them.

orangecat 6y ago
Sweden has about the same per-capita death rate as the US and Switzerland, and lower than the UK, Spain, and Belgium. (See https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/ https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/). It's certainly possible that they'd be doing better with more restrictions, but if their strategy is as disastrous as many people seem to think then they'd be at the top of the charts, and they're not.
- phakding 6y ago
  That sort of proves my point. UK didn't even want to restrict anything. Netherlands, Italy and Spain acted too late. Sweden decides to selectively restrict. In US people are willing to sacrifice human life for economic activity and no wonder all these countries are worse off as far as fatality rate goes compared some other countries like Germany or India.
  - orangecat 6y ago
    It's just odd that I constantly hear how horribly Sweden is doing, and not a peep about Switzerland. In US people are willing to sacrifice human life for economic activity How many additional COVID19 deaths would you accept to avoid a crippling economic depression? If the answer is zero, you are not being serious. If the answer is more than zero, then as Churchill noted, we've established what kind of person you are and are now haggling over price.
    - phakding 6y ago
      There, that's your reason. May be do a google search next time. https://www.thelocal.ch/20200324/explained-why-does-switzerland-have-the-second-highest-rate-of-confirmed-coronavirus-cases https://www.thelocal.ch/20200324/explained-why-does-switzerl... Crippling economic depression? What's the proof this is going to cause crippling economic depression. If you are so concerned about crippling economic depression, what were you doing when the stock market crashed from 17,000 down to 6 some thousand back in 08? Did you go out and protest and made sure the companies need to be held responsible and punished? And Churchill? Seriously? This is the guy who considered Indians and Persians and other colored people less than human and who literally caused hundreds thousands of deaths in either nation, believed in racial hierarchy and social darwinism. I don't give a flying fudge what Churchill thinks of me.
a_tractor 6y ago
>certain underlying conditions like diabetes, high BP, obesity etc Most of those are almost all considered preventable diseases, and the result of poor dietary and lifestyle decisions. Those responsible would like to never face this or admit it, but the "choice" for these people was lost a long time ago.

orangecat 6y ago

Sweden has about the same per-capita death rate as the US and Switzerland, and lower than the UK, Spain, and Belgium. (See https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/ https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/). It's certainly possible that they'd be doing better with more restrictions, but if their strategy is as disastrous as many people seem to think then they'd be at the top of the charts, and they're not.

phakding 6y ago
That sort of proves my point. UK didn't even want to restrict anything. Netherlands, Italy and Spain acted too late. Sweden decides to selectively restrict. In US people are willing to sacrifice human life for economic activity and no wonder all these countries are worse off as far as fatality rate goes compared some other countries like Germany or India.
- orangecat 6y ago
  It's just odd that I constantly hear how horribly Sweden is doing, and not a peep about Switzerland. In US people are willing to sacrifice human life for economic activity How many additional COVID19 deaths would you accept to avoid a crippling economic depression? If the answer is zero, you are not being serious. If the answer is more than zero, then as Churchill noted, we've established what kind of person you are and are now haggling over price.
  - phakding 6y ago
    There, that's your reason. May be do a google search next time. https://www.thelocal.ch/20200324/explained-why-does-switzerland-have-the-second-highest-rate-of-confirmed-coronavirus-cases https://www.thelocal.ch/20200324/explained-why-does-switzerl... Crippling economic depression? What's the proof this is going to cause crippling economic depression. If you are so concerned about crippling economic depression, what were you doing when the stock market crashed from 17,000 down to 6 some thousand back in 08? Did you go out and protest and made sure the companies need to be held responsible and punished? And Churchill? Seriously? This is the guy who considered Indians and Persians and other colored people less than human and who literally caused hundreds thousands of deaths in either nation, believed in racial hierarchy and social darwinism. I don't give a flying fudge what Churchill thinks of me.

a_tractor 6y ago

>certain underlying conditions like diabetes, high BP, obesity etc Most of those are almost all considered preventable diseases, and the result of poor dietary and lifestyle decisions. Those responsible would like to never face this or admit it, but the "choice" for these people was lost a long time ago.