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https://www.anandtech.com/show/15708/amds-mobile-revival-redefining-the-notebook-business-with-the-ryzen-9-4900hs-a-review/5 https://www.anandtech.com/show/1570

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15708/amds-mobile-revival-redefining-the-notebook-business-with-the-ryzen-9-4900hs-a-review/5 https://www.anandtech.com/show/15708/amds-mobile-revival-red... is the page you really want to look at along with the battery life at https://www.anandtech.com/show/15708/amds-mobile-revival-redefining-the-notebook-business-with-the-ryzen-9-4900hs-a-review/10 https://www.anandtech.com/show/15708/amds-mobile-revival-red... which just destroys the i7-9750H.

heelix 6y ago
I picked my kid one of the new 4800h based laptops for the heavy Adobe work she does at work and university. Unplugged, I can watch full screen twitch.tv videos with all indications looking like the 9+ hour estimate might be correct - which was a bit of a shocker. I've not had a chance to do much else with it... as she won't give it back. :)
- dr_zoidberg 6y ago
  Yeah, that's quite a shocker truth be told. I bought a little "netbook" last year for my mom and I was surprised the Intel Goldmont+ [0] it has inside could pull 11 hours of netflix. Now having a beast like those Ryzens pull a similar feat? Sign me up! I'm looking forward to getting one of these! [0] Goldmont(+) is an architecture where Intel pulled a few tricks from Skylake, put them in the blender with an Atom and got a surprisingly good, yet power efficient design... For late 2018 that is. Seems AMD topped them there too, and without having to go for a less powerful design.
  - PenguinCoder 6y ago
    I've been looking for a good netbook that isn't a chromebook. Which one did you pick up?
    - AsyncAwait 6y ago
      Not OP, but if you're looking for solid performance in a tiny form-factor, I'd suggest One Netbook 3.
      - dr_zoidberg 6y ago
        I'm OP: got a way too stripped down hp stream. For the use case ("here you go mom, you got firefox and netflix installed") it was more than enough. But it does have some severe limitations. Soldered 4GB RAM and 32gb eMMC drive. Soldered everything basically. The procesor has a 6W TDP [0]. The free storage space is so limited that once it got a big windows update and I had to disable virtual memory just to get windows to update, then clean the update files and re-enable virtual memory. OTOH, the processor has 4MB of L2 cache. That's a monster performance boost in that form-factor, so it doesn't feel like previous Atoms (and props to intel for not calling an Atom, it's called Celeron N4000 or Pentium N5000). Do take into account this is Q4-2017 tech, so the Ryzens these year have leapt over it/are about to. The computer doesn't have fans, but it never gets hot, a bit warm at most. The final touch is a mate screen[1] at 11", paired with a comfortable keyboard. Nothing about it is incredible, but I got it at a good discount (about $180) which was a killer price. I did a quick amazon search and it seems the 11" model has been discontinued and people are selling at $300 (that's a good one) and the 14" stands at $240 lowest price. As for buying someth today, I've read great reviews of the Motile 11" "netbook" [2] (not the 14") that packs a Ryzen 3200 (that's Zen+, not Zen 2) which packs good performance into a low power envelope, with decent build and good specs. They sold those at sub-$200 for a while, but then the (too?) good reviews bumped that price up to the $300+ range. Still better than other alternatives at that price, but not a killer. I'd certainly look to buy one of those today if I was looking for the same use case, mainly because I want to support AMD and low-power intel is still kicking forward the arrival of Tremont (the successor to Goldmont+). And given the performance AMD is pulling from these mobile Ryzens (specially the Renoir chips), I doubt intel's Tremont chips will hold their ground -- rumour was about 30% IPC improvement over Goldmont+, but that's already a very underpowered chip. Well this got quite a bit longer than I expected. That's all I know/care about small, lightweight, cheap laptops these days. Hope it's useful to someone! [0] https://ark.intel.com/content/www/es/es/ark/products/128988/intel-celeron-processor-n4000-4m-cache-up-to-2-60-ghz.html https://ark.intel.com/content/www/es/es/ark/products/128988/... [1] I hate glossy screens, the glare always makes my eyes uncomfortable if I readd too long from them. [2] https://www.notebookcheck.net/Walmart-s-most-affordable-Motile-Ryzen-laptop-is-now-even-cheaper-at-just-210.451212.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Walmart-s-most-affordable-Moti...

heelix 6y ago

I picked my kid one of the new 4800h based laptops for the heavy Adobe work she does at work and university. Unplugged, I can watch full screen twitch.tv videos with all indications looking like the 9+ hour estimate might be correct - which was a bit of a shocker. I've not had a chance to do much else with it... as she won't give it back. :)

dr_zoidberg 6y ago
Yeah, that's quite a shocker truth be told. I bought a little "netbook" last year for my mom and I was surprised the Intel Goldmont+ [0] it has inside could pull 11 hours of netflix. Now having a beast like those Ryzens pull a similar feat? Sign me up! I'm looking forward to getting one of these! [0] Goldmont(+) is an architecture where Intel pulled a few tricks from Skylake, put them in the blender with an Atom and got a surprisingly good, yet power efficient design... For late 2018 that is. Seems AMD topped them there too, and without having to go for a less powerful design.
- PenguinCoder 6y ago
  I've been looking for a good netbook that isn't a chromebook. Which one did you pick up?
  - AsyncAwait 6y ago
    Not OP, but if you're looking for solid performance in a tiny form-factor, I'd suggest One Netbook 3.
    - dr_zoidberg 6y ago
      I'm OP: got a way too stripped down hp stream. For the use case ("here you go mom, you got firefox and netflix installed") it was more than enough. But it does have some severe limitations. Soldered 4GB RAM and 32gb eMMC drive. Soldered everything basically. The procesor has a 6W TDP [0]. The free storage space is so limited that once it got a big windows update and I had to disable virtual memory just to get windows to update, then clean the update files and re-enable virtual memory. OTOH, the processor has 4MB of L2 cache. That's a monster performance boost in that form-factor, so it doesn't feel like previous Atoms (and props to intel for not calling an Atom, it's called Celeron N4000 or Pentium N5000). Do take into account this is Q4-2017 tech, so the Ryzens these year have leapt over it/are about to. The computer doesn't have fans, but it never gets hot, a bit warm at most. The final touch is a mate screen[1] at 11", paired with a comfortable keyboard. Nothing about it is incredible, but I got it at a good discount (about $180) which was a killer price. I did a quick amazon search and it seems the 11" model has been discontinued and people are selling at $300 (that's a good one) and the 14" stands at $240 lowest price. As for buying someth today, I've read great reviews of the Motile 11" "netbook" [2] (not the 14") that packs a Ryzen 3200 (that's Zen+, not Zen 2) which packs good performance into a low power envelope, with decent build and good specs. They sold those at sub-$200 for a while, but then the (too?) good reviews bumped that price up to the $300+ range. Still better than other alternatives at that price, but not a killer. I'd certainly look to buy one of those today if I was looking for the same use case, mainly because I want to support AMD and low-power intel is still kicking forward the arrival of Tremont (the successor to Goldmont+). And given the performance AMD is pulling from these mobile Ryzens (specially the Renoir chips), I doubt intel's Tremont chips will hold their ground -- rumour was about 30% IPC improvement over Goldmont+, but that's already a very underpowered chip. Well this got quite a bit longer than I expected. That's all I know/care about small, lightweight, cheap laptops these days. Hope it's useful to someone! [0] https://ark.intel.com/content/www/es/es/ark/products/128988/intel-celeron-processor-n4000-4m-cache-up-to-2-60-ghz.html https://ark.intel.com/content/www/es/es/ark/products/128988/... [1] I hate glossy screens, the glare always makes my eyes uncomfortable if I readd too long from them. [2] https://www.notebookcheck.net/Walmart-s-most-affordable-Motile-Ryzen-laptop-is-now-even-cheaper-at-just-210.451212.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Walmart-s-most-affordable-Moti...