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> astro-turf an influence campaign So, forgive me, honest question. I understand that to mean Russian puppets. Is that not the reality of the NRA at this mom

> astro-turf an influence campaign So, forgive me, honest question. I understand that to mean Russian puppets. Is that not the reality of the NRA at this moment?

chance_state 7y ago
Not really sure what point you're making or what you're asking. What is a "Russian puppet"?
- jimhefferon 7y ago
  Like the NRA, an organization or person who is controlled by Russian money, or some other pressure that they have over the people in charge. https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-reveals https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-ass...
  - AnimalMuppet 7y ago
    That link shows that the NRA may have had some contact with Russia pre-2016. Even that much is disputed. But even if true, it is a "long* way from controlled by Russia, either via money or pressure.
wombat-man 7y ago
I mean I see what you're saying. This does seem like the type of thing a state actor like Russia might want to do. But we're a few years out from 2016 at this point. I am not surprised that some Americans have decided to stir the pot themselves either for political reasons or to try and get dollars.
austincheney 7y ago
Although foreign influence campaigns have used tactics like these there is no evidence to suggest any foreign influence in this case. The article suggests the bad actors were identified to actual persons in the US. So, in this case, no Russian puppets here. I don't keep up with the RNA or many other special interests movements. The NRA, as far as I know, are a prominent gun rights lobbyist with extremely deep pockets. There is a lot of conjecture about the NRA, and that could just be that they are highly controversial, but there is nothing I know of suggesting the NRA is influenced by foreign agents, but then I also don't keep up with this.

> astro-turf an influence campaign So, forgive me, honest question. I understand that to mean Russian puppets. Is that not the reality of the NRA at this moment?

chance_state 7y ago

Not really sure what point you're making or what you're asking. What is a "Russian puppet"?

jimhefferon 7y ago
Like the NRA, an organization or person who is controlled by Russian money, or some other pressure that they have over the people in charge. https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-reveals https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-ass...
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago
  That link shows that the NRA may have had some contact with Russia pre-2016. Even that much is disputed. But even if true, it is a "long* way from controlled by Russia, either via money or pressure.

wombat-man 7y ago

I mean I see what you're saying. This does seem like the type of thing a state actor like Russia might want to do. But we're a few years out from 2016 at this point. I am not surprised that some Americans have decided to stir the pot themselves either for political reasons or to try and get dollars.

austincheney 7y ago

Although foreign influence campaigns have used tactics like these there is no evidence to suggest any foreign influence in this case. The article suggests the bad actors were identified to actual persons in the US. So, in this case, no Russian puppets here. I don't keep up with the RNA or many other special interests movements. The NRA, as far as I know, are a prominent gun rights lobbyist with extremely deep pockets. There is a lot of conjecture about the NRA, and that could just be that they are highly controversial, but there is nothing I know of suggesting the NRA is influenced by foreign agents, but then I also don't keep up with this.