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HN: the situation where procurement is local is dumb, feds should be distributing PPE Feds: (attempt to) seize PPE to distribute it elsewhere HN: The situatio

by m0zg 7y ago

HN: the situation where procurement is local is dumb, feds should be distributing PPE Feds: (attempt to) seize PPE to distribute it elsewhere HN: The situation where feds seize PPE is dumb, you should be able to procure locally Which is it folks? What's the set up that will satisfy your wishes? Meanwhile a quote from gov Cuomo today: "I think the president is right when he says the states should lead", regarding testing.

jasonlotito 7y ago
This is what you are saying: HN: You should have been wearing a seat belt when the car crashed. Feds: Puts on the seat belt after the car crashed. HN: That is dumb. Which is it folks? What seat belt state will satisfy your wishes? The fed has dropped the ball already. It needs to show more leadership going forward. The time for the fed handling PPE procurement and distribution has already passed though, at least in the way they are doing it. The only thing they are doing is taking PPE that is needed now and keeping it away from those that expect to get it.
- m0zg 7y ago
  The fed so far has made it so we have enough PPE, beds, and ventilators, and brought down the projected death count down more than an order of magnitude. Our test throughput in hotspots far exceeds that of any other country. If that's "failed" I'd like you to elucidate what "success" would look like to you.
  - jasonlotito 7y ago
    > The fed so far has made it so we have enough PPE We don't have enough PPE. This has been well reported. That's it. Full stop. > If that's "failed" I'd like you to elucidate what "success" would look like to you. Not having to lie about being successful would be a start. Also, having in place the things that were dismantled by this administration that they are looking to put back into place in the middle of a crisis. It's building a fire truck after a fire started because you didn't need it before hand. It's idiotic.
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago
  The thing is, the car is continuing to crash. Sure, the seat belt should have been on already. But put the seat belt on now.
  - jasonlotito 7y ago
    And you've ignored the metaphor completely.
    - AnimalMuppet 7y ago
      I've said that the metaphor is somewhat misleading.
chapium 7y ago
HN has trolls now? HN isn't one person.

by m0zg 7y ago

jasonlotito 7y ago

This is what you are saying: HN: You should have been wearing a seat belt when the car crashed. Feds: Puts on the seat belt after the car crashed. HN: That is dumb. Which is it folks? What seat belt state will satisfy your wishes? The fed has dropped the ball already. It needs to show more leadership going forward. The time for the fed handling PPE procurement and distribution has already passed though, at least in the way they are doing it. The only thing they are doing is taking PPE that is needed now and keeping it away from those that expect to get it.

m0zg 7y ago
The fed so far has made it so we have enough PPE, beds, and ventilators, and brought down the projected death count down more than an order of magnitude. Our test throughput in hotspots far exceeds that of any other country. If that's "failed" I'd like you to elucidate what "success" would look like to you.
- jasonlotito 7y ago
  > The fed so far has made it so we have enough PPE We don't have enough PPE. This has been well reported. That's it. Full stop. > If that's "failed" I'd like you to elucidate what "success" would look like to you. Not having to lie about being successful would be a start. Also, having in place the things that were dismantled by this administration that they are looking to put back into place in the middle of a crisis. It's building a fire truck after a fire started because you didn't need it before hand. It's idiotic.
AnimalMuppet 7y ago
The thing is, the car is continuing to crash. Sure, the seat belt should have been on already. But put the seat belt on now.
- jasonlotito 7y ago
  And you've ignored the metaphor completely.
  - AnimalMuppet 7y ago
    I've said that the metaphor is somewhat misleading.

chapium 7y ago

HN has trolls now? HN isn't one person.