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Long-term NYC resident here (I haven't hit my decade yet, so I'll avoid calling myself a New Yorker to dodge any ire). I've heard rumblings from a lot of peopl

Long-term NYC resident here (I haven't hit my decade yet, so I'll avoid calling myself a New Yorker to dodge any ire). I've heard rumblings from a lot of people about moving out, mostly from people who haven't really set down roots here - which makes sense. The appeal of New York is largely all the stuff to do, and without being able to do stuff you're just stuck in a very small space that you pay a lot of money for. Most of the people I hear this from expect social-distancing type measures to continue for quite some time, so especially those with small children/etc. are really thinking about whether they can do this for another year. Interestingly I haven't really met anyone considering leaving the city because of the virus itself (i.e. because of concern due to population density), only those really feeling the lifestyle restrictions. They're responsible and social distancing, etc. so the thought of continuing that lifestyle without significantly more living space is getting to them.

thrmway 6y ago
>Interestingly I haven't really met anyone considering leaving the city because of the virus itself (i.e. because of concern due to population density), only those really feeling the lifestyle restrictions. Are you really even meeting people at all though considering pretty much everyone in NYC is home in isolation.
subpixel 6y ago
I left when Day Care closed and am not sure how I feel about ever returning while social distancing is still common sense. Because Day Care is essentially exposing yourself to the germs carried by twenty other children, their families, the caregivers, and their families.
- wgerard 6y ago
  Yeah, quite a few people with small children I know have left to be close to parents/in-laws (somewhat I assume to get some help with the additional childcare burden), and I'm curious to see if they come back.
tomg 6y ago
I'm one of those people who live
viklove 6y ago
"I'm not leaving because of the virus, I'm leaving because because of the virus I can't go out" Strange distinction to make, isn't it?
- wgerard 6y ago
  Eh, not really. A lot of the discussion revolves around mortality rates, and in particular about NYC as the US epicenter. Most people I talk to who are thinking about leaving the city aren't concerned about their own risk as a result of being in a dense urban center, rather the lifestyle adjustments are the most difficult thing for them. Granted that's almost entirely because most people I talk to are relatively healthy young adults who are being responsible and avoiding contact as much as possible, so they're not concerned as much about their own mortality or being a possible vector for others.
  - viklove 6y ago
    I mean, they kinda are concerned about the risk of mortality, aren't they? That's the only reason they're not going about their lives as normal. If you removed the risk of mortality, surely their lifestyles would return to normal, and they would have no reason to leave?
    - wgerard 6y ago
      > I mean, they kinda are concerned about the risk of mortality, aren't they? Not their own mortality, which is a pretty major distinction. They're social distancing largely so they don't spread it to other, more susceptible, people unwittingly.

thrmway 6y ago

>Interestingly I haven't really met anyone considering leaving the city because of the virus itself (i.e. because of concern due to population density), only those really feeling the lifestyle restrictions. Are you really even meeting people at all though considering pretty much everyone in NYC is home in isolation.

subpixel 6y ago

I left when Day Care closed and am not sure how I feel about ever returning while social distancing is still common sense. Because Day Care is essentially exposing yourself to the germs carried by twenty other children, their families, the caregivers, and their families.

wgerard 6y ago
Yeah, quite a few people with small children I know have left to be close to parents/in-laws (somewhat I assume to get some help with the additional childcare burden), and I'm curious to see if they come back.

tomg 6y ago

I'm one of those people who live

viklove 6y ago

"I'm not leaving because of the virus, I'm leaving because because of the virus I can't go out" Strange distinction to make, isn't it?

wgerard 6y ago
Eh, not really. A lot of the discussion revolves around mortality rates, and in particular about NYC as the US epicenter. Most people I talk to who are thinking about leaving the city aren't concerned about their own risk as a result of being in a dense urban center, rather the lifestyle adjustments are the most difficult thing for them. Granted that's almost entirely because most people I talk to are relatively healthy young adults who are being responsible and avoiding contact as much as possible, so they're not concerned as much about their own mortality or being a possible vector for others.
- viklove 6y ago
  I mean, they kinda are concerned about the risk of mortality, aren't they? That's the only reason they're not going about their lives as normal. If you removed the risk of mortality, surely their lifestyles would return to normal, and they would have no reason to leave?
  - wgerard 6y ago
    > I mean, they kinda are concerned about the risk of mortality, aren't they? Not their own mortality, which is a pretty major distinction. They're social distancing largely so they don't spread it to other, more susceptible, people unwittingly.