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“ Google Does this now. Are you angry that Google isn't paying employees the same in SF and India?” Yes, yes I am. If Jeff Dean moves to India are his commits

by aantix 7y ago

“ Google Does this now. Are you angry that Google isn't paying employees the same in SF and India?” Yes, yes I am. If Jeff Dean moves to India are his commits suddenly worth 10% of what they were when in the Bay Area? There are high performing employees - regardless of where they contribute from that bring a ton of value.

Kalium 7y ago
> Yes, yes I am. If Jeff Dean moves to India are his commits suddenly worth 10% of what they were when in the Bay Area? No, but his options have probably changed and negotiating positions have probably shifted. Have you considered that others may view compensation as a negotiation? It sounds like you're operating from some variant of the labor theory of value and treating this approach as a moral imperative. If value is realized, compensation should be according to value, and nothing else should matter. Is that an accurate summary of your position? If that's accurate, might I suggest that this position is something an entrepreneur is ideally positioned to use to their advantage? Surely the world is full of excellent software engineers who would jump at the chance to be paid according to their value.
geodel 7y ago
What is more likely: Jeff Dean negotiating his salary and perks with whichever company and living where ever he likes or whining about salary inequity across different regions in the world? A-level players will try and get compensation what they think they deserve by negotiating discreetly. However most of the CRUD peddlers who are not in tech hubs remain aware they are not going to get Silicon valley salaries while living in some remote Indian town.
- aantix 7y ago
  It’s not whining if you’re taking action. Push back on the employer. You bring value regardless of location. They desperately need your services. If you make the cut, you have the leverage in the negotiation. Quit being “Midwest nice” and you will probably get much more than you thought.

by aantix 7y ago

Kalium 7y ago

> Yes, yes I am. If Jeff Dean moves to India are his commits suddenly worth 10% of what they were when in the Bay Area? No, but his options have probably changed and negotiating positions have probably shifted. Have you considered that others may view compensation as a negotiation? It sounds like you're operating from some variant of the labor theory of value and treating this approach as a moral imperative. If value is realized, compensation should be according to value, and nothing else should matter. Is that an accurate summary of your position? If that's accurate, might I suggest that this position is something an entrepreneur is ideally positioned to use to their advantage? Surely the world is full of excellent software engineers who would jump at the chance to be paid according to their value.

geodel 7y ago

What is more likely: Jeff Dean negotiating his salary and perks with whichever company and living where ever he likes or whining about salary inequity across different regions in the world? A-level players will try and get compensation what they think they deserve by negotiating discreetly. However most of the CRUD peddlers who are not in tech hubs remain aware they are not going to get Silicon valley salaries while living in some remote Indian town.

aantix 7y ago
It’s not whining if you’re taking action. Push back on the employer. You bring value regardless of location. They desperately need your services. If you make the cut, you have the leverage in the negotiation. Quit being “Midwest nice” and you will probably get much more than you thought.